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State of the Sox: Daisuke, Smoltz and the Deadline

July 29, 2009

THE DAISUKE PROGRAM

–What is your perception of the situation with his throwing program? When you saw his between-starts work in ‘07, did you consider it fascinating, insane, something in between?

Daisuke is no different than any other pitcher I’ve played with from the Far East. They are taught at a young age to throw, throw some more, and when you’re exhausted, throw some more. That works well in some cases because their schedule is different. One thing that cannot be stated enough is the fact that they work in what amounts to a six-man rotation over there, which is worlds apart from the five-man. Their strike zones are bigger, they throw less pitches per start as well. BK Kim was a great example. Young kid, phenomenal arm, burned out. The quality of his stuff dropped dramatically because he refused to listen to anyone explain to him that sort of regimen could not maintain his arm strength through this much more rigorous and demanding schedule.

–What kind of teammate is he?

Nice kid, quiet. I can’t imagine the hurdles and challenges someone faces coming to a country where everything is foreign. I was surprised to find out he knew a lot more English than he ever let on and part of me thinks that was due to him wanting to know more of what was going on than he let on or people expected. It also, IMO only, presented him with the opportunity to say “I don’t understand” when he actually might have. He was always smiling.

–What’s your sense of the reason underlying his time on the DL this year: WBC, need to return to his lifelong shoulder program, poor conditioning, other?

I think he showed up to spring training in horrific shape based on what I heard and saw. When weight goes up, and body fat as well, it’s a clear indicator that work wasn’t being done. If he’s allowed to ‘do as he pleases’ he’s peaked and IMO he will not get better. If he is allowed to throw to the extreme volumes he wants you are looking at a starter who will need a few breaks during the season, and someone who will not remain a power guy for long.

–Will he be a useful piece this year?

I don’t think so. Any logical assessment of where he is, and where he needs to be to get major-league hitters out leads me to believe at the very best he might be able to give you some innings in September, but certainly not many and often.

–Inside a clubhouse, how is this sort of stuff perceived? Does this sort of controversy affect anyone else?

It’s looked on as it is, the guy didn’t do the work needed to do his job. This is one of those things that has far longer legs outside the clubhouse than in. You play games every day, there’s far too much to think about without worrying about stuff completely out of your control.

The far more important thing here is the destruction of trust. I watched this team acquiesce to everything in year one. They did any and every thing they could to make him comfortable. No one told him NO, or YOU CANNOT, but there was a large group of people working with him to make him understand the game here is far different from the one he’s been playing, and that is going to require change. The lack of accountability is sad to see as well.

He is where he is because of no one’s actions – or inactions – other than his own. This team, especially the manager and pitching coach, have busted their asses to do what is right by him, at every turn; and to be honest why wouldn’t they? It’s in their best interest for Dice to be as good as he can. The hard part was persuading someone who was every bit as much an icon as Michael Jordan was here, in Japan, that he needed to change. He obviously, regardless of what he’s said, doesn’t believe that’s the case.

If he doesn’t listen to John, and he is allowed to do his own thing, he won’t remain a top line starter in the big leagues.

SMOLTZ

–It seems like fastball command has been his chief problem. Is that the last thing to come back after labrum surgery?

It wasn’t for me. The last thing I got was consistent velocity. I talked with John a few weeks back about coming back from labrum surgery and told him that for me it was about eight weeks into my big-league return when things started to get back to normal.

My first eight weeks my velocity was incredibly erratic. I pitched a game in SF, had a three-pitch first inning, 83, 84 and 85 mph fastballs, all three pop ups in the infield. Second inning on I K’d 7 in a row and was throwing 95. I had to ‘hang on’ in every game until my velocity showed up.

The HUGE plus I have seen in John is the ‘stuff’ is there. His velocity is more than good enough, and his other stuff is too, it’s really boiling down to one simple thing, fastball command. That will come, and when it does he’s a top of the rotation guy. Right now he’s wild in the zone and getting killed for it.

–You made the transition from a guy who used the fastball down and away to someone who worked both sides of the plate. What are the challenges of that adjustment? How does diminished FB velocity force a gameplan change? Does it become necessary to concede diminished velocity and dial back in order to gain greater precision?

It affects everything. Remember though – he still has a power pitcher’s fastball; I didn’t. He can blow one by anyone if he’s commanding it and his slider is working. The key is recognition of the change, and internally adjusting. He just needs to have better command of it right now and he doesn’t.

The HUGE plus for me though is that it IS something that can literally show up overnight, unlike many other adjustments or pitches, fastball command is as much a state of mind and belief as anything mechanical.

THE TRADE MARKET

–As a veteran, how do you perceive the value of prospects versus All-Star caliber veterans in the trade market at this time of year? In clubhouse conversations, do guys care about long-term shape of the organization, or would the idea of Roy Halladay, Victor Martinez, Adrian Gonzalez, etc., come with a make-the-deal, screw-the-prospects sort of response?

Depends on the player. As we have talked about in the past, this is a different place. Everyone here knows the team will do whatever it can to make the club better, and to make the club a World Series contender. For the most part that means everyone is on the table and available. With the exception of Josh, Lester and Bard, Petey and Youk, I don’t imagine anyone on this team is untouchable. Theo won’t screw up what he’s worked to build the past 5-6 years, but if he has a chance to get Doc or Gonzalez and not deplete the entire system, I think anyone that knows him knows he’ll do it. If he believes he can sign Doc, keep Josh, I guarantee he will do it.

As far as value, it really boils down to perspective. What are the chances of any pitcher they have in their system having the year Doc might have next year? Slim? None? If you can sign him then the argument gets even more lopsided.

Gonzalez means moving Lowell, which I wouldn’t do given his value on and off the field. I have no clue where or what Victor Martinez would do, and I am having trouble seeing that move happening without some major shake up. Not that it won’t, but that’s a tough one to play out. Do you go with three catchers? Put a below average glove at first over a Gold Glover, moving him to third? Moving Lowell where? Who catches Wake? You don’t trade the prospects it might take to get a guy like that and then only plan on him being in the lineup 4-5 days  a week, right?

55 Comments leave one →
  1. July 29, 2009 9:05 pm

    –Will he be a useful piece this year? OUCH…Do you think he will come back and you won’t lose so much money with him?

  2. JohnnySac permalink
    July 29, 2009 11:05 pm

    Curt,

    Do you ever feel bad about stealing an ungodly amount of money from the Red Sox last year knowing that you would never be healthy enough to contribute as much as an inning of work?

    Just wondering.

    Best 0f luck and give my regards to the wife and kids.

    Jim O’Mara
    South Boston, MA

    If one ounce of that were true I sure as hell would, but since it’s not, no, not at all

  3. JohnR permalink
    July 29, 2009 11:44 pm

    Curt – big fan – can’t thank you enough.

    total non-sequitur – and apologies if you answered this before.

    I know you are a big Johnny Podres fan, worked with him, etc.

    Did his legendary Yankee-killer performance as a Brooklyn Dodger in the world series game 7 affect (1) your legendary performance against the Yankees in 2001? (2) your decision to come to the Sox for yet another legendary performance in 2004 against the Yankees?

  4. mike veve permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:52 am

    i could read posts like this from you all day every day. as a lifetime fan of the game, i can’t tell you how fascinating it is for me to read such an unvarnished and inside perspective of major league baseball.

    keep ’em coming, curt.

  5. Warren permalink
    July 30, 2009 6:51 am

    I want to address JohnnySac/Jim O’Mara and all others claiming Curt “stole” $8M last year. While this is stupidity at its finest, let’s keep the following things in mind:

    1. The Red Sox have the best doctors in the world and/or access to them. They are literally down the street from the best medical school in the world and the best medical centers in the world.

    2. They had Curt as a player and as a patient for four years before the $8M extension.

    3. Theo already knew there was a *higher risk* that an older player and specifically this older player could go bust due to injury. That’s why he and Curt agreed to the interesting contract structure that they did. They both came to accept certain risks and made their agreement.

    For anybody to contend that Curt tricked the Red Sox and their medical staff, hiding an injury from them; apparently they think Curt himself should be teaching at Harvard Medical, because he was able to trick the best physicians in the world, who had worked with him and examined him for over 4 years, and had just inspected his shoulder a couple months prior to all of the contract work since they had to shut him down for a bit to freshen it in 2007.

  6. Rhayader permalink
    July 30, 2009 7:11 am

    Awesome stuff, thanks for the insight Curt. Any chance we’ll ever see you on Baseball Tonight, or MLB Network, or something? I know you’re good friends with Plesac, maybe he can get you into studio 42.

  7. Craig permalink
    July 30, 2009 8:06 am

    Jim O’Mara
    South Boston, MA

    Find a bridge.

    Craig
    Weymouth, MA

  8. July 30, 2009 9:01 am

    HI CURT
    I HEARD YOU THIS MORNING DISECTING CLAY B. LOOK BACK AT YOUR STATS EARLY IN YOUR CAREER

  9. Cliff permalink
    July 30, 2009 9:18 am

    Normally, I’m impressed with writers when they write points that agree with all of my opinions. In this case, I’m impressed with myself for agreeing with everything this writer wrote. I guess that’s just a testament to how much more credibility you have, Curt.

  10. Joe from East Boston permalink
    July 30, 2009 10:22 am

    Curt I duno if you read these comments, but knowing you you probably do. I just want to thank you for coming here and delivering the goods, two World Championships to Boston. My grandfather died before ever seeing one and he was 76 when he passed away. I almost always agree with your point of views on everything and I love the fact that your blunt and honest and do not hold anything back. I think the Sox need to do something because they may have this “player development machine” but they have no power hitters in their farm system and after Beckett and Lester the rotation have a very AGED and UNRELIABLE rotation! Also after Youkilis, Bay, and Pedroia they have a very AGED and UNRELIABLE starting lineup. Something needs to be done to fix this problem and also set up the club for the long term. This is why I was so scared when Mark Texiera went to the YANKEES of all teams! It hurt us in many ways and I think Theo and John Henry and Larry Lucchino totally dropped a HUGE BALL on that one. They got cocky and confident and were they the only people on earth that didn’t realize the Yankees were being WAY TOO QUIET when they also needed a first basemen? Also, do you not get scared knowing that Joe Mauer is about to become a free agent and the Sox and the Yankees both are in need of a catcher after this season?? All I know is I’m very worried and troubled over these sort of things and other things for the foreseeable future for my beloved Sox. I think the Mark Texiera thing was just the first of many miscues that the Sox will pay for over the next few years. Come on, counting on a 42 year old John Smoltz, classic second half underachiever Brad Penny, the least durable and healthy outfielder off the bench in Brad Penny, as well as the EXTREMELY questionable acquisitions of J.D. Drew, Daisuke, and Coco Crisp????!!! I know Curt would agree with me on many of these. Those millions and millions of dollars could have gone to Mark Texiera and some other crucial parts that the Sox do not currently have on their team or the farm! Thanks Curt for everything and I hope you see this comment.

  11. Joe from East Boston permalink
    July 30, 2009 10:24 am

    Curt I duno if you read these comments, but knowing you you probably do. I just want to thank you for coming here and delivering the goods, two World Championships to Boston. My grandfather died before ever seeing one and he was 76 when he passed away. I almost always agree with your point of views on everything and I love the fact that your blunt and honest and do not hold anything back. I think the Sox need to do something because they may have this “player development machine” but they have no power hitters in their farm system and after Beckett and Lester the rotation have a very AGED and UNRELIABLE rotation! Also after Youkilis, Bay, and Pedroia they have a very AGED and UNRELIABLE starting lineup. Something needs to be done to fix this problem and also set up the club for the long term. This is why I was so scared when Mark Texiera went to the YANKEES of all teams! It hurt us in many ways and I think Theo and John Henry and Larry Lucchino totally dropped a HUGE BALL on that one. They got cocky and confident and were they the only people on earth that didn’t realize the Yankees were being WAY TOO QUIET when they also needed a first basemen? Also, do you not get scared knowing that Joe Mauer is about to become a free agent and the Sox and the Yankees both are in need of a catcher after this season?? All I know is I’m very worried and troubled over these sort of things and other things for the foreseeable future for my beloved Sox. I think the Mark Texiera thing was just the first of many miscues that the Sox will pay for over the next few years. Come on, counting on a 42 year old John Smoltz, classic second half underachiever Brad Penny, the least durable and healthy outfielder off the bench in ROCCO BALDELLI (Not Brad Penny), as well as the EXTREMELY questionable acquisitions of J.D. Drew, Daisuke, and Coco Crisp????!!! I know Curt would agree with me on many of these. Those millions and millions of dollars could have gone to Mark Texiera and some other crucial parts that the Sox do not currently have on their team or the farm! Thanks Curt for everything and I hope you see this comment.

  12. gjmacd permalink
    July 30, 2009 11:50 am

    Curt,

    Great posts…

    First off, thanks for ending my life long agony of thinking I’ll never see a WS in my lifetime (I’m 44, so it wasn’t that long, but long enough). I just wanted to say, coming here and saying you were going to do, and then actually doing it, that’s huge balls my friend.

    Anyway, given the situation with the pitching staff this year, I’m just not comfortable heading into the playoffs with Beckett and Lester, only. In my mind there’s no real #3 that we can go to in a playoff situation. That should have been Smoltz or even Penny. But neither, when I watch them, have the stuff to shut down a staff for 6+ innings like Beckett or Lester can do.

    I know people are complaining about the bats, but its my belief that 4 to 5 runs with Beckett and Lester is enough to win 90% of the time, but that #3 spot is worrisome.

    What are your thoughts on that?

  13. Brendan permalink
    July 30, 2009 11:51 am

    Wondering Curt’s thoughts on the news that Ortiz was on steroids. Doesn’t this prove that the Mitchel report was obviously biased? Isn’t 2004 and 2007 forever tarnished by Manny and Papi’s (and probably other) cheating?

  14. Joey Bianco permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:05 pm

    Hey Curt, are we going to see your name on “The List” alongside Manny and Ortiz when it is finally released? Just looking for a definitive answer. Thanks- JB

  15. BosFan permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:10 pm

    Hey Curt,
    Your act is getting old around here… Your a Has-been! All you are is a person who has an over-inflated sense of self worth, compounded by a low level of intelligence. Get the hell out of town you has-been!

  16. game6sockwasfake permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:13 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html

    now what curt?!

    a no name hitter from minnesota gets big for 4 years then bats .228

    but you “saw no evidence”

  17. Babe Ruth permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:22 pm

    Back in my day, we won championships on beer and hot dogs.

    2004* 2007*

    1918 now stands as the last time the Red Sox won without cheating.

    and shame on you for holding back to congress.

  18. Lynz permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:23 pm

    Curt would love to hear your comments about Big Papi. You went hard against others so now one of your own who help the Sox win the World Series. Your comments are anticipated.

  19. Matt permalink
    July 30, 2009 12:34 pm

    So Curt, still saying you never saw steroids in your locker rooms?

  20. July 30, 2009 12:41 pm

    How about setting up a meeting with BK Kim and Dice K? Let experience speak.

  21. Ken permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:01 pm

    Do the right thing Curt, return your boston rings. You don’t win without Manny an Ortiz, and if you want to tell Roger he should return Cy-Youngs, then you should set the precedence. Time to man up.

    Ohh and watch out for that extra ketchup on your hot dogs, last time you spilled it all over your sock, how embarrassing.

  22. Matt permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:09 pm

    I’ll take your silence on the steroid issue as a continued denial that you ever saw steroids in your locker room.

  23. Will permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:10 pm

    Curt,

    Hate your politics, love your honesty. Wish all pro athletes spoke their mind like you do. Don’t always agree with what you write, but love reading it. Thanks for your years here, and prepare for the “Big Papi on steroids” tsunami….

  24. Phil permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:14 pm

    Hey Curt – what’s your big mouth have to say about Big Papi and Manny being on The List of Cheaters?! ‘Roids… Two rings should be sent back to their rightful winners?

    “If he doesn’t do that then there aren’t many options as a fan for me other than to believe his career 192 wins and three Cy Youngs he won prior to 1997 were the end,” Schilling wrote Wednesday in his blog, 38pitches.com. “From that point on the numbers were attained through using (performance-enhancing drugs). Just like I stated about Jose (Canseco), if that is the case with Roger, the four Cy Youngs should go to the rightful winners, and the numbers should go away if he cannot refute the accusations.”
    Who were the rightful winners you putz? The teams we beat were cheating too, how’s that work out? I mentioned individual awards because not everyone on every team was using

  25. JohnR permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:17 pm

    Cue all the slack-jawed Yankee fans who just can’t get 04 and 07 out of their nightmares coming over here and pretending like the Sox were the only team with users.

    newsflash – every team had users…and, since you mention it, no team has had more users than the Yankees. to me, it makes the Sox accomplishment even more impressive.

    do they really think noone on the Yanks in the nineties did peds?

  26. Nick C. permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:24 pm

    Are the 2004 and 2007 Championships any more tarnished than those that the Yankees won with Roger Clemens? Or the A’s squads that featured both Mark McGwire AND Jose Canseco? Seriously, I doubt it, and this is if the report turns out to be true, which isn’t a certainty.

    I love the honest commentary, and I think we’re blessed as Boston fans to get to enjoy Schilling’s honesty on the Red Sox and baseball, and now Rodney Harrison’s brutally honest commentary on the Patriots and football.

    And I bet JohnnySac wouldn’t turn down $12,000,000 if he was offered it, either – hypocrite.

  27. Mary-ellen permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:39 pm

    Will all of the yankee fans get off of their high horses please… I wounder how many yankee players were on that list??? What the 2004 red sox pulled off was one of the greatest comebacks of the century and no amounts of steriods could of helped. It was shear guts and determination that won that series, let alone the world series. Spare me the agony, these yankee fans can not admit that their beloved yankees laid an egg.

  28. Bill Buckner permalink
    July 30, 2009 1:42 pm

    Youre a joke, Schiling…a loud mouth who never thinks before he speaks. I love how you are now unofficially tied to the ‘most potent 3-4 combo.’ open mouth…insert bloody sock. And, to all you sox fans and youre, oh curt, your so insightful…your has been that drained your ball club of dollars while you tried to hang onto glory…we’ll take Mr halladay now, and watch Texas steal the wild card…thanks…it was a good run, but your tainted run is over.

  29. Ron Reynard permalink
    July 30, 2009 2:05 pm

    Hi Curt,
    Given your past comments about steroid use, and revocation of records based on the use of steroids, I’m wondering if you’re going to be a straight, consistent shooter and give up your World Series rings since its now known that some of the major hitters on your team used steroids. Just wondering if you’re going to walk the walk instead of just talk the talk.

    Ron

  30. Joe Will permalink
    July 30, 2009 2:14 pm

    Been a Red Sox fane since 1967 and now have 4 boys. Took them to see you pitch in Columbus 2 years ago and it was AWESOME. 3 out of 4 are Red Sox fans. We live n Columbus and I am going to Boston next week.
    GO RED SOX

  31. dandan32 permalink
    July 30, 2009 2:35 pm

    Curt,

    Today is a great day in sports. Now we all know that the sox 2004 and 2007 championships are tainted. Ortiz is Clutch*. Bostons championships= *.

    FYF schilling. Where is your post about your cheating team mates? haha. suck it

  32. Jeremy permalink
    July 30, 2009 2:39 pm

    What is the point of coming onto this website and then complaining about Curt? If you don’t like him or his posts go read someone else’s website. You call him a has-been but your reading and commenting? How does this make any sense at all? The lack of intelligence in some of you is unbelievable. Thanks for the great years Curt and the WS.

  33. Mike permalink
    July 30, 2009 2:46 pm

    All I have to say is ha ha ha! Are they going to make you turn in your rings for a new asterisk engraving?

  34. Joe permalink
    July 30, 2009 3:50 pm

    All of your wins from 2003-2007 are now TAINTED including both rings… because your run support was cheating, therefore your whole team was cheating. How many of those 2-3 run games that you won would be in the loss column, had it not been for your 2 biggest rbi helpers snorting roids… hard to rub ketchup on that one and spin it positivly.

    Against teams who’s players were also using? Idiot

  35. ItAllComesOut permalink
    July 30, 2009 4:44 pm

    the apparent confirmation that Ramirez and Ortiz cheated does not clear Clemens, Giambi, McGwire, A-Rod, etc. Anyone who thinks it does is fooling themselves. But it does mean that one more part of the group that taunted those players, their teams, and their fans, now need to look in the mirror and face up to the fact that their own team is just as bad, just as tainted. No one wins – but one more just lost.

  36. Stephen permalink
    July 30, 2009 5:00 pm

    What about getting rid of that stiff Papelbon before he coughs up another
    fur ball and he still has some trade value? Has he had a “clean” save appearance this season?

  37. Jim permalink
    July 30, 2009 5:12 pm

    You just had a post talking about the day that changed red sox history. The day they started taking steroids changed red soxs history.

  38. Ben Miller permalink
    July 30, 2009 5:19 pm

    Ahh, Curt learns the price of schadenfreude.

    I love how you’re now claiming that there were cheaters abound. Will you at least recant your opinion that Cy Youngs and MVPs should turn their awards over to the runners up? If you’re going to imply that members of the ’04 Cards and ’07 Rockies were cheating then who is innocent?

  39. July 30, 2009 6:16 pm

    People, don’t believe everything you hear. Why not wait to hear the facts before judging and condemning. Since when are lawyers stand-up? Nothing can take away the glory of ’04. You people with the ketchup nonsense will drown in your own cynicism.

  40. storm permalink
    July 30, 2009 6:31 pm

    wow curt you helped brake a 86year curse and everyone forgets..thats very sad

  41. Elaine Apthorp permalink
    July 30, 2009 7:30 pm

    As always, forthright Curt here. Thanks for your observations. A lot of people rag on you over your own conditioning issues toward the end of your career, but I think they’re pretty unfair. You’ve always been up front about such matters–and that makes your comments about Daisuke all the more compelling.

  42. JohnR permalink
    July 30, 2009 8:33 pm

    people read/see what they want to….Curt only ever said to take individual awards from cheaters. That means Clemens’ Cy Youngs and ARod’s MVPs and Canseco’s MVPs. He always maintained that it is impossible to sort out team awards – and it shouldn’t be done – it is not realistic to believe that there were any teams without cheaters. I might mention that no team has more confirmed users than the NYY.

    But that doesn’t keep the slack-jawed Yankee fans from coming up with hate, not listening to a word that is said, and conveniently ignoring the fact that all their championships are tainted too.

    Jeez – I guess 04 and 07 really, really sticks in their craw.

  43. The Gaff permalink
    July 30, 2009 9:17 pm

    Seems like performance enhancing substances, whether they were the greenies, sterroids, whatever, were a big part of the baseball culture for some years. If you’re suprised by the news today about our best 3-4 ever, then you’re living in a dreamland. If you have ever “rolled thru” a stop sign and never received a ticket for it or received too much change back from the clerk at the store and didn’t bother giving it back because it was one cent or $50 because you were already on your way, or saw the traffic light change to yellow and sped up to not get caught up by the red light, then you have cheated something one way or another. Nobody on this earth has been honest all of the time. All of you that say you have, I say BULL. Marginal players probably did it to just stay afloat in the minors. Some probably make it up to the bigs. None of us on the outside know the truth about all that goes on. No matter what the outcome of all of this, I still enjoy the late-inning punchout strike three call on a homerun hitter caught looking with a runner on third, down by one run to get out of the top of the eighth. I enjoy the towering blast of a walk-off 3 run homer.
    If you’re one that talks about tainted this and asterisk that, you should go watch little league baseball. At least that hopefully is still pure enough for you.

    Mr. Schilling,

    I was one of the Marines that marched out from the tunnel in left field and lined the first base line the day after you EARNED your 200th win. It was an honor to be invited and to shake your hand. I had a baseball and a sharpie in my pocket that day and if not for the uniform, I would have whipped it out in a heartbeat for your autograph. You are held in the highest regard at the Gaff residence for your contributions to Red Sox nation over the years.

    Thanks again for the memories.

  44. jap1 permalink
    July 30, 2009 11:25 pm

    Curt,

    Before you criticize Dice-K, did it ever cross your mind that what he meant to say had been lost in translation? Of course, ultimately he is the one who should be held accountable for the disastrous results, and there should be no excuse for that. But apparently he didn’t mean to criticize the team or vent his frustration, he was just having a private conversation with a Japanese journalist and discussing the difficulty of adjusting to baseball in America. You seemed really eager to pound on your former teammate.

    Also, there were some inaccuracies in your understanding of baseball in Japan. Dice-K used to throw much more pitches per start in Japan (Japanese pitchers generally do pitch a lot more in general), and from what I read, the strike zone in America are wider outside of the plate.

  45. July 31, 2009 1:36 am

    all of you morons who say 04′ and 07′ were/are tainted and curt and the sox should give thier rings back couple of points:

    1: I assume most of you are nyy fans so how about game 7 of the 03 alcs and known and admitted ped user jason giambi hitting 2 HR’s off of pedro that barely cleared the wall. hmmmmmmmm do we forget?

    2: There was testing in 07′ and that series was won mostly on the dominate pitching by josh beckett

    3: Every team the sox beat in 04′ also had ped users on them I am disappointed in papi and manny but to say that either W.S. was tainted are morons

    4: Finally if the sox were to give their 04′ rings back because they had ped users on them well then all of the nyy ws rings from the 90’s should be given back as wasnt roger clemens on a few of those teams and seeming how the yankees won those titles during the peak of steroid use and non testing and were all giving our rings back because of ped use then that would put the sox up 1-0 in ws wins seeming how there was testing in 07′ and the nyy have never won a ws in a non-testing year so basically by your logic all of nyy’s ws are tainted and the red sox have a clean untainted 2007 world series

    FRIGGIN’ MORONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. Dick permalink
    July 31, 2009 2:10 pm

    Curt:

    Why do you subject yourself to this crap? You give imbeciles, who can’t even construct a sentence, an opportunity to call you names. You have a lot going in your life. You don’t need this.

    I’m recently retired and I’ve read a few of these websites. If I were you, I’d re-examine your fascination with the netherworlds of the internet. There are people out there with 35,000 plus posts per website and regard it as a badge of honor. These weirdos, and there are millions of them, by stealing wages from their employers have a serious impact on productivity in America. With Obama in the White House, we’re pretty much screwed anyway, this isn’t helping any.

  47. July 31, 2009 9:53 pm

    I have no clue where or what Victor Martinez would do, and I am having trouble seeing that move happening without some major shake up. Not that it won’t, but that’s a tough one to play out. Do you go with three catchers? Put a below average glove at first over a Gold Glover, moving him to third? Moving Lowell where? Who catches Wake? You don’t trade the prospects it might take to get a guy like that and then only plan on him being in the lineup 4-5 days a week, right? Thanks Curt.

  48. August 2, 2009 3:40 am

    I find it very entertaining watching the schizophrenic Yankee fan come in here 15-20 times and manifest all his various “personalities.” He can post each time under a different ID and fully believe each of his personalities is a real and distinctly different person, but the one common thread that ties each of them to him is that fact that hey are all stupid, obnoxious, a$$holes.

    But what else would you expect of a fan of the team that is so last century?

  49. Doctor X permalink
    August 3, 2009 10:43 am

    Must admit it is most gratifying to see that Yankee fans are still crying over their Biggest Choke in Sports History.

    Their tears . . . are so . . . sweet!

    –J.D.

  50. John Laurito permalink
    August 5, 2009 11:36 am

    Curt,
    As a lifetime Yankees fan, I despised you for years. The root of the hatred was obviously planted when you and the Sox finally kicked our asses. You are correct in saying that everyone cheated or at the very least, had cheaters and that more than likely leveled the playing field. Now that your career is done, I respect you tremendously and looking back at how you sacrificed your own well being for that of the team was amazing. I only wish Brian Cashman beat Theo to the punch!!! Love your honesty and totally agree with your political views. Keep up the good work. In the end basball is just a game and for these people to come here and razz you about something they obviously know nothing about is sheer stupidity.

    Good luck from a fan in Yankeeland!
    John Laurito

  51. Matt permalink
    August 6, 2009 6:48 pm

    I notice you respond to people harshly when you think you are right, but you refuse to respond to my question about how you said you never saw steroids in your locker room. We’re you just not in the locker room ever? You did play for the 1993 Phillies and the steroid-filled Red Sox, but swear you never saw anything. Maybe your teammates hated you as much as the rest of the baseball world and you never hung out with any of them to see it happen. Before you say that you were a great teammate, think back to that confidence-instilling inning where you were sitting with a towel over your head in the World Series while Mitch Williams was on the mound.

  52. Matt permalink
    August 7, 2009 7:56 am

    See? No response? I’m shocked!

  53. Matt permalink
    August 11, 2009 9:34 pm

    His fastball? He threw a hanging curve down and in which was supposed to be down and away in an 0-2 count. His velocity just isn’t there anymore. I though he could come back as a Jamie Moyer with an 85 mph fastball with a curve and a change.

  54. David permalink
    August 23, 2009 1:36 pm

    Agreed Matt. As for the fan from yankee-land, why would you respect someone who sucks off the red sox players every chance he gets? Next thing you know he will take a page out of Jim Rice’s book (they let anyone into the hall these days) and tell kids not to look up to Jeter. Derek Jeter is the face of MLB. Curt, you should become a Red Sox announcer and come up with a snazzy tag line similar to..you can put it on the board, yes! You might as well just start referring to the Red Sox as the ‘good guys.’ I remember reading how you wanted to be a Yankee but our GM was obviously smoking crack in the early 2000’s and thought Carl Pavano/Jaret Wright/old man RJ/bipolar Kevin Brown were the saviors. It would be nice if you would just admit that the dudes you played with cheated and go on from there. Its funny that you say Clemens should return those cy youngs but when a ‘team achievement’ that has steroids written all over it comes around and the runner up should not get it. So when the shoe is on the other foot, you choose to go barefoot I’d say. Without PEDS, your team never comes back in 2004. And since the ’04 Cards and ’07 Rockies cheated too, shouldn’t they both have avoided being swept…or maybe those teams just didn’t do enough drugs to catch up with what your guys were on. Ortiz doing steroids was the best thing to ever happen to his mediocre career before Boston. Look at him in Minnesota, then a hitting instructor fixes his swing, then he becomes the best hitter in all of baseball with a crazy slugging % increase? Maybe a five year old would buy that.

  55. Mike Carney permalink
    August 25, 2009 12:33 pm

    Your a dope Shilling! No one cares what you have to say anymore!!!

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