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Five Questions: What Moves Should the Sox Make?

July 15, 2009

–Should the Red Sox pursue Roy Halladay, and if so, at what cost?

I think so, but the cost depends on the topic really. Money? Like everyone else it’s not mine, so it’s not an issue. Compensation in players? Certainly not at any cost and the cost would be directly tied to the time I had him under guaranteed contract. If I got a signed extension pre-deal, that changes what I would pay.

–What stands out about how Halladay approaches pitching – either on the mound or between starts – that has allowed him to excel?

It’s the entire package. Same situation as a Beckett or a Lester. I know I am getting a guy that hates losing so much that he’ll do whatever it takes to avoid it. I also know that he thrives on working with and helping young pitchers that are receptive to it, and there are quite a few of those guys here. I also know that he is a further insurance policy for my bullpen. The amount of innings I can project on him is far more than most other starters, which means I am projecting less innings from my bullpen.

–Based on what you’ve seen, what, if anything, do you feel the Red Sox need between now and the July 31 trade deadline?

Health, period. A healthy Mike Lowell is huge, maybe the biggest piece. They don’t need anything if they have health because in my opinion if they stay completely healthy they are going to run away with the division. No team can match their staff 1-5 and certainly not in a five- or seven-game series.

–How, if at all, does the clubhouse atmosphere change during the weeks between the All-Star break and the July 31 deadline?

Depends on the players. In this clubhouse, not a lot changes simply because the usual change in other clubhouses is from some semblance of normal to frantic, and it’s always frantic in Boston so it really doesn’t feel any different. The major difference, and I would argue advantage, is that you never walk into this clubhouse worried that you may be seeing your team trading its way out of contention. Now remember I was in this clubhouse as a veteran — it’s different for young players who have heard their names on the block.

–What is Jason Bay worth as a free agent?

Whatever you can lock him up for, for the next four to five years, obviously within reason and what the market is dictating. Locking him up now requires two things in my opinion.

1) The team accurately projecting market value, knowing the player, and then figuring out if they can obtain that player for less than the market value

2) The player accurately projecting market value and being willing to accept something less than that. No team pays a player market value at this stage, when they can do it six months from now. And no player accepts less than market value at this point unless it’s money that is somewhat close, they aren’t going after every last penny, and they are playing in a place they really want to remain in.

I do think Jason wants to play here, and I do think they want to keep him here. How much of each side’s desire there is, I don’t know. It’s a perfect fit in the clubhouse I think, simply because he’s a very good teammate and a genuinely good guy. He’s as perfect a fit on the field as you could ask and has proven the market is not going to affect his performance in any way.

15 Comments leave one →
  1. Rob from PA permalink
    July 15, 2009 11:28 pm

    Do you think the evil empire could make some ridiculous move for Halladay? I had thought originally the jays were open to trading within the divison which could directly affect the sox cause the last thing they need is to face some fantasy like rotation with CC,Roy Halladay and AJ.

  2. Tru permalink
    July 16, 2009 5:55 am

    Re: Halladay, some questions, if you don’t mind…

    1. First, Halladay’s pedigree is well known, and were he to join Boston, someone else in the rotation has to be moved out. Who would you speculate that would be?

    2. If the Sox and the Jays cannot come to trade terms, and Halladay somehow winds up elsewhere, are the Sox, as presently constructed, good enough to win the division?

    3. That Toronto is seemingly willing to trade within the division, do the Yankees have enough talent to make a trade happen? I understand their massive resource, but Toronto needs players in return, not just dollars.

    4. Outside of Boston and New York, what other teams might have need for Halladay, and be able to afford him?

  3. July 16, 2009 8:45 am

    Curt, did you catch the Ted Williams documentary on HBO? It was excellent… It inspired us New Yorkers to write something for Red Sox Nation today. Check it out if you get a chance…

    As for trades: If the Mets are dopey enough to trade Jose Reyes and the Sox can get him – they should grab him. Reyes is still young – people forget that. A trade would simply spark him further – which he doesn’t need.

  4. Jack Kermelewicz permalink
    July 16, 2009 11:03 am

    Curt,
    Manny Delcarman has had some problems recently, it is possible he is worried about his job with the additions this year of Dan Bard and Ramirez? Does this effect a pitcher to the point where it’s in his head when he’s on the mound?

    Thanks, and thanks for the championships.

  5. NHBill permalink
    July 16, 2009 12:34 pm

    Love this format! Can we get 5 Q’s once a week?

  6. July 16, 2009 6:07 pm

    I don’t think it’s necessary to go out and spend a large sum of money on Halladay. I think, like you said, we need to get and stay healthy and use that money that we have to again (agreeing with you), lock up Jason Bay for a long term deal. I’m sure things will work out well and we will end up with a great line-up no matter what the outcome. My concern is what’s going to happen with Julio Lugo? Are we going to have to eat his $9 M contract or what?

  7. paul baranofsky permalink
    July 16, 2009 7:13 pm

    I would NOT do any deal for Roy halladay.The red sox have more pressing needs such as a dependable shortstop.Nick Green is what he is-a 3 or 4 game a week player and thats it.Also can we really count on Mike Lowell in the second half?I dont think so and I would NOT give up the farm just to get Halladay to keep him away from the Yankees.The Jays wont be so stupid as to deal with any AL team because they wouldnt want halladay to come back and haunt them in the future.I think Halladay IS NOT goi9ng to be dealt.This is another example of the media thrwoing stuff out there to see how stupid and gullible fans(especially those in NY and Boston)are

  8. bosoxyaz8 permalink
    July 16, 2009 9:02 pm

    I love this dude (big schill) does he love himself a bit much ? ah yeah the great ones always do. did i rip him when he considered coming back with another team after his lugo`esk bust 08 contract, yes i did. i wont be all two faced and deny that. BUT BUT BUT This mother trucker brought HUGE ballz to the table when he came to us he brought a cocky vibe with him that we needed so bad with our (pre 2004)paranoid meth addict mindset. doom doom death death the sky will fall soon mentality. full disclosure i include myself in that. i will never ever forget that thanksgiving weekend for what seems like a century ago back in 2003. I was 3,000 miles from boston in the san francisco bay area where i live , watching the press conference from arizona on espn news with my now x-wife sitting next to me. she after telling me she wanted a divorce a freaking week before breaking my heart my life my everything and as were watching the press conference she looked over and i was so excited and happy ready to freaking cry i sware to god. anyhow she turned to me and said “you want them to win it more than you want anything in life , dont you ?”. she wanting me to say i wanted HER more than anything so i looked in her eyes and said MORE THAN ANYTHING MICHELLE MORE THAN ANYTHING ON EARTH. i owe big schill i believe a huge thanks more than any other player on the 2004 roster….HANDS DOWN !!!
    Me and my epic dad were at the oakland coliseum on a sunny afternoon on thursday june 7,2007 10 rows in back on the sox dugout and about to witness a no-hitter that schill was about to pitch i will never forget that performance and the great time me and my dad had because of big schill and our beloved bosox.

  9. July 17, 2009 8:25 am

    hi curt. thank you for your years in boston and for the championships in boston as well so far the red sox have a three game lead over the yankees the second half begins tonight when the red sox play the blue jays tonight in case lowell has another setback from his injury i heard the other day the red sox called the blue jays about the availability of scott rolen do you think rolen would be an insurance policy in case lowell suffers a setback from his injury.what do you think curt.red sox for 2009 world series champions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!go sox.

  10. July 17, 2009 8:39 am

    The thing about Halladay is you don’t need him. He would be a luxury, a very nice luxury. I think you go hard for him even still, ace’s dont hit the market that often and when they do they cost an arm and a leg. We have the type of package to put together for Halladay, but you don’t want to completley decimate your farm.

    A rotation of Beckett, Halladay, Lester, Smoltz, Wakefield looks pretty good to me.

  11. July 17, 2009 4:00 pm

    We have too many starters as it is. If Dice makes it back to full strength and Bucholz pitches great, what do we do even without Halladay. Seems to me we’d have to give up Bucholz in such a deal, at the very least. It’s not worth it with the pitching we already have.

  12. sdl1 permalink
    July 17, 2009 5:14 pm

    Looks like the Phillies have the inside track on getting Halladay. No way the KJays will trde him withing the AL East. Plus…do we really need him? It is a good thing that Penny was NOT dealt, given the way Smoltz has been looking lately.

    Sure, I like Halladay…but this is a case where we don’t need to have him.

  13. July 17, 2009 9:33 pm

    josh.g to answer your question the red sox just designated julio lugo for assignment today giving the red sox 10 days to either trade him or release him three teams have shown interest in him the cubs mets and cardinals besides his days in boston were numbered anyway.

  14. July 22, 2009 12:58 pm

    Who would the Sox logically give up for Halladay? I agree that they need to focus on getting the field players healthy. Also agreed that the Jays would not deal him to an AL team. I think the rotation is good (could be better) but it’s not worth losing some solid offensive players for Halladay.

  15. David Ortiz permalink
    August 14, 2009 9:10 am

    –Based on what you’ve seen, what, if anything, do you feel the Red Sox need between now and the July 31 trade deadline?

    Health, period. A healthy Mike Lowell is huge, maybe the biggest piece. They don’t need anything if they have health because in my opinion if they stay completely healthy they are going to run away with the division. No team can match their staff 1-5 and certainly not in a five- or seven-game series.
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    really curt? the sox are running away with the division now huh? how bout some sweep caroline….btw hte yankee pitching rotation is better than bostons…..outside of beckett and lester the sox have noone….yankee meanwhile have cc aj joba and pettite….i give the sox a slight edge at spots #1 and #2 in the rotation but the yankees #3 in joba and #4 in pettite are FAR BETTER than wakefield and penny…..not to mention john smoltz was a joke

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