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So much upside

March 9, 2009

If the reports are true and the Sox have inked yet another young home-grown player, chalk one up for Theo.

So let’s see, this year the Sox are paying two of the top three MVP candidates, and what will likely be a left-handed power No. 1 less than $10 million total. Right around 15mm or so next year for all three, less than 25mm for all three in 2011, on out until 2012. Notice that all three have their contracts staggered in ending dates as well.

So for around $110-or-so million, two lineup cornerstones and a No. 1 are locked up for the next four years at least. Club options on all three could keep them together through 2013.

Did they leave some money on the table? Absolutely not. There isn’t a penny of this money ‘left on the table’. These players bought lifetime’s of security, and the club got All-Star talent and cost certainty, as a ‘great price’. You can’t leave ‘money on the table’ for a time that hasn’t arrived yet.

I couldn’t be happier for all three guys. They are all great kids, all have fantastic work ethics and not one of them has hit his ceiling yet. Anyone looking for regression, meaningful regression, need look again. Dustin will only get better, it’s part of both he and Youk’s makeup. Jon as well. He’s so damn young as a pitcher, considering how many innings pitched he has career-wise, there’s no reason to think he can’t be a top 10 Cy guy for the life of this deal, every year. Not to mention he’s making about $23 million less than Santana this year.

Things look great for this group. I’d expect to hear Jason Bay’s name more and more in the coming weeks, as well as some discussions with Josh as the season rolls along.

Add this mix and the incredibly young, incredibly talented and deep pool of arms coming through the minor leagues and you can’t help but golf clap that Theo has delivered on his promise to rebuild this organization starting with the draft, scouting and the minor league system.

All of these things will continue to add up and be attractive to the free agents that are out there, looking. This team is poised to be a contender for the next 5 years at a minimum, and it should be fun as hell to watch.

Now cross your fingers Minnesota gets confused and doesn’t re-sign Mr. Mauer this year …

17 Comments leave one →
  1. BoSox4Life permalink
    March 9, 2009 12:34 pm

    Theo has always been great at keeping young, home grown talent in the system for a long time. Jon Lester is just another example. The Sox line up is set for many years with Lars and Lowrie, Youk and Pedroia, kottaras and now Lester, this core will be around for a while. Add jacoby long term with Bay and this team has to be a favorite for the forseable future

  2. Rhayader permalink
    March 9, 2009 1:10 pm

    Theo Epstein has been an incredible GM. Rather than constantly going for the flashy deals and trade deadline blockbusters, he has built up a solid organization that emphasizes the single ingredient most important for success in October: pitching. I expect big things from the Sox over the next few years.

    By the way, anyone see Pedroia and Youk tearing things up in the WBC? Those guys are filthy.

  3. guytona permalink
    March 9, 2009 1:48 pm

    Minnesota GM Bill Smith, do not be taken in by this man’s stamina-tastic ankle and videogame prowess. He does not have your best interests at heart. You should, nay, you must resign Mauer to a slightly-below-open-market-value deal that locks him up through 2013 with a $18 million club option for 2014, one that becomes automatic once he reaches 500 at-bats.

    I implore you, sir, do the right thing.

  4. JoeC75 permalink
    March 9, 2009 2:12 pm

    Gotta love everything about these signings 🙂

  5. Scott permalink
    March 9, 2009 4:49 pm

    Nice post Curt! I agree I think it was a no-brainer that the Red Sox re-signed the core young guys. I also agree with what you said on Beckett and Bay.

  6. March 10, 2009 3:50 am

    Should be a fine group to knock the Angels out of the first round of post season play!

  7. Josh permalink
    March 10, 2009 7:59 am

    Mauer is having an MRI on his back today. We won’t get him anyway. The Yankees need a catcher too. Oh, wait, they have Kevin Cash!

  8. March 10, 2009 11:08 am

    Grooming for the future is definitely a strength of this Sox organization. 🙂

  9. BoSox4Life permalink
    March 10, 2009 12:43 pm

    Rhayader, theo does go after the flashy play,(note, A-Rod, Teixeira, Burnett) he just doesnt get them and when those players are signed by the Yankees, he goes after multipul B level free agents who can do the same job.(Penny, Smoltz, Wilkerson) However, he does do a good job at keeping thier young talent around for a long time and that combined with veteran players and free agents the sox are always in the hunt come october. Mauer will leave Minnesota but he wnt land in Boston, there are too many teams willing to pay over market price for him. look to see him in detroit or ney york

  10. Chris Fiorentino permalink
    March 10, 2009 3:31 pm

    I am happy that the Sox have locked these three guys up for the next 4 years. However, I still can’t get past the fact that we could have traded Clay and Jacoby for Johan and locked up another World Series Championship in 2008. The fact is that we over-valued Clay and DEFINITELY got ahead of ourselves on Jacoby. I know, I know…Clay pitched a gem today in Spring ball. But the fact remains that if we had Santana in this rotation last year, we would have cruised to the World Series…we got to the SEVENTH GAME of the ALCS with a tired Lester and banged-up Beckett. And Coco proved that he is money when he took over for Jacoby and hit .450 against Tampa in the ALCS.

    I can’t help but wonder if someone had told Theo before the season started that Manny would be traded at the deadline if he would have made the Santana for Buchholz-Ellsbury trade? Somehow, I think he would have made the trade.

  11. Justin permalink
    March 11, 2009 9:28 am

    I love what they are doing. I’m sure the Players Association is frowning about this as we all speak (type). They don’t want players like Pedroia, Youk, and Lester signing long term deals before their current deals expire. I think it’s great that the organization has developed the minor league system so well that we don’t need to make the Brady Anderson for Mike Boddicker trades anymore. Or the Curt Schilling trades…Thankfully we got that one back!

    Well done Theo, et al.

  12. Rhayader permalink
    March 11, 2009 10:35 am

    @BoSox4Life: Yeah fair enough, although showing interest isn’t necessarily “going after” those kinds of players. I see your point though.

    @Curt RE Ann Coulter: She sucks. Horribly. I’m not even anti-conservative. She is completely void of substantive reasoning; it’s just a bunch of awful moralizing. She only exists because people find her entertaining, which is fine, but she should not be mistaken for a legitimate pundit.

    There are more than enough smart, quality people in the conservative/libertarian arena that we shouldn’t have to listed to Coulter’s crap.

    Completely void? Really? Disprove her, disprove her data, because Bill Maher, try as he might, sure as hell couldn’t. She’s devoid, obnoxious and all those things to people she discredits, people with no real rebuttal but “Ya, well you suck more” as their defense. She does go over the line at times, and I couldn’t disagree with her more about John McCain, but that doesn’t make her wrong, just that we disagree. Her commentary on Hilary basically winning the NH primary by crying last night was rebutted by Bill Maher with “Bush cried on 9/11”, that’s so bad and stupid in so many ways it’s almost funny

  13. Chris permalink
    March 11, 2009 2:38 pm

    Fox News Curt? Come on. Every thing written on that site is slanted so far one way it’s disgusting. Both of those clowns were out of line but why bother even bringing it up, Rush Limbaugh is one of the most obnoxious people on the face of the Earth and you defending him in any way makes you look even more ignorant than you’ve already proven to be. The fact that he’s quoted saying he’s not about polls is hilarious, it’s all he has ever been about. Stop feeding us your Republican b/s.

    Unfortunately for you, as for many, being obnoxious doesn’t make him wrong….

  14. Dougie "Dude Ranch" Mirabelli permalink
    March 11, 2009 2:47 pm

    C. Montague:

    I tell ya, these statements agree with me a lot more than the 3 meatball parms I had for lunch agree with me right now! Heckuva run of signings for Young Theo. I just might give him a pass on the next Atomic Wedgie he’s due. That said, I take umbrage at your suggestion that the Twins might be making a mistake in not re-signing Joe Mauer. Guvna, you know as well as I do that there is one certified deep-bombing catcher on the free agent market — D. Ranch Mirabelli. Frankly, I have it on high authority that Gardy Gardenhire is thrilled at the trhought of a 3-4-5 of Morneau-Mirabelli-Cuddyer in 2010. You don’t need to be Carnac the Magnificent to predict a buttload of opposite-field bombs into the ‘Dome Baggy courtesy of yours truly. I’ll be prepping for it all through ’09 with 150 nude swings in the mirror a day.

    Dealt it,

    Dougie “Dude Ranch” Mirabelli

  15. March 12, 2009 10:11 am

    Theo is doing an amazing job with developing the Red Sox farm system. The Sox are finally starting to see that work payoff unlike what is happening at The Evil Empire.

    The Jimmy Fund Challenge:


  16. Theo E permalink
    March 25, 2009 1:44 pm

    Thanks Schill for your approval on my work.

  17. Amy Li permalink
    March 25, 2009 8:19 pm

    Hear hear!
    I’ve been so happy this spring season, hearing about all these deals to homegrown Red Sox players. With such an amazing bunch of players, and a great farm system, I am definitely looking forward to watching this season, and future seasons, unfold.

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