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February 24, 2009

People get upset when I re-post stuff I receive. Sometimes though I like the stuff too much not to post it. Such is the case with this one, and I am pretty sure not many can disagree with the message …

545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY
do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we
have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does. You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don’t write the tax
code, Congress does. You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does. You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the
Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a
federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority.
They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking
thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to
accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to
determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their
fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal
human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of
the House? The leader of the majority party. He/She and fellow House members, not the president,
can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they
agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand
convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single
domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain
truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what
exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ.

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people,
it’s because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can
abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the
power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into
the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like ‘the economy,’ ‘inflation,’ or ‘politics’
that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it is up to you, though you appear to have
several choices.
1. You can send this to everyone in your address book, and hope’ they’ do something about it.
2. You can agree to ‘vote against’ everyone that is currently in office, knowing that the process
will take several years.
3. You can decide to ‘run for office’ yourself and agree to do the job properly.
4. Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing, or re-elect the current bunch.

33 Comments leave one →
  1. RachelC permalink
    February 24, 2009 4:13 pm

    What this rant seems to be missing is the fact that those 545 people have not been the same ones for the past 50 years..or even the past 2 years.

    I agree with some of what is said here, but the logic of the argument is hopelessly flawed.

  2. Sean permalink
    February 24, 2009 6:03 pm

    @RachelC: While some names change, there is not significant turnover from one congress to the next. Rarely does on party control both the Presidency, and a filibuster-proof Congress. Most blaming that goes in Washington is in fact BS/posturing. I think it’s your logic that is flawed.

  3. tdmtown permalink
    February 24, 2009 9:32 pm

    Wow bubba, reprinting what’s really just a simple (but unfortunately based in a sad truth) non partisan filler/puff piece,
    whooda thunk you capable of it?

    We were beginning to think you had an agenda or something,
    in spite of your “i support whoever our president is” blather.

    Just so we are on the same page, you realize that your buddy “high character” McCain
    is ALSO one of these 545…….right??
    As culpable, then, now and in the future, as every one of the other 544……..right???

    But unlike many of the sackless and gutless elected officials running our country, Senator McCain has always been accountable for his actions, always. That right there should make him an outcast in most DC inner circles…

  4. February 24, 2009 10:18 pm

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
    Luckily we voted out Bush and some of the republicans.
    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
    And somehow later on the current congress is at fault for this?
    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.
    The problem is lots of republicans took the money.
    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
    Well the justices are appointed for life but we are doing our best to get rid of those scumbag republicans.
    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ.
    Because Bush lied to them.
    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like ‘the economy,’ ‘inflation,’ or ‘politics’ that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
    Don’t believe any mumbo-jumbo! Don’t believe any mumbo-jumbo! Don’t believe any mumbo-jumbo!
    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.
    And he is terrible at logic.
    What you do with this article now that you have read it is up to you, though you appear to have
    several choices.
    1. You can send this to everyone in your address book, and hope’ they’ do something about it.
    That would prove you are an idiot.

    2. You can agree to ‘vote against’ everyone that is currently in office, knowing that the processwill take several years.
    We just voted against the republicans who have caused our problems for the last 8 years!

    3. You can decide to ‘run for office’ yourself and agree to do the job properly.
    You should run Curt. You and Sarah and Joe the Plumber can form the Know-Nothing Party.

    4. Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing, or re-elect the current bunch.
    Give Obama a chance. He is smarter than you!

  5. February 24, 2009 11:47 pm

    Actually, Curt. All these deficits won’t be a problem at all.

    We’re going to pull a fast one on the Commie Chinese and those rich guys that save their money in fixed income instead of investing it in America (misers are as bad as commies)

    We’re just going to let the currency inflate until the debts are much easier to pay off.

    See? We borrow 3 trillion and get 3 trillion dollars worth of stuff. Then we let inflation halve the value of the currency. Now, when we pay back the 3 trillion, we’re only sacrificing 1.5 trillion of stuff in today’s dollars. That’s what the commies get for just saving their money and not spending it. We make that money they saved worth less. Suckers.

  6. February 25, 2009 7:35 am

    RachelC, all you have to do is look at the sheer number of long term senators. These people are career politicians and they stay in office past the age where in any other job they’d be forced into retirement. Senators, probably more than any other political office, stay in way too long.

  7. Greg permalink
    February 25, 2009 8:52 am

    Great article, this will be forwarded to many. I bet most people in this country think the Federal Reserve is a government agency. It is time to get our heads out of the sand and learn some things. A real good way to evaluate and investigate the motives of our trusted leadership comes in 3 words…follow the money!

    Thomas Jefferson said this in 1802:

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
    liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever
    allow private banks to control the issue of their currency,
    first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations
    that will grow up around the banks will deprive the
    people of all property until their children wake-up homeless
    on the continent their fathers conquered.”

    Rachel I think it is a little short sighted to interpret the author as blaming the current 545 people who are currently pulling the strings. I think it is just the opposite he is blaming the collective of the current and past 545 going back as far as 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was illegally implemented. The problem being pointed out here is our government is not being run by independent minded people of integrity but by positions with a prescribed agenda. This is certainly not the case with all, but far too many.

  8. Rhayader permalink
    February 25, 2009 9:32 am

    Don’t you think this is a simplistic view of things? First of all, as RachelC points out, the federal institutions named all have revolving doors. The personnel changes much more often than the final product does.

    Also, we are talking about a country here, with 300 million people in it. That is not a simple thing to run, particularly when those in seats of power are expected to cater to the wants and needs of all 300 million of those people. Setting and keeping a budget is not easy; failure to do so is not evidence of blind incompetence.

    Is our government full of selfishness and incompetence? Of course. But that is a systemic problem at least as much as it is a problem with any individuals. A federal government is like a massive oil tanker; it takes a long time to turn things around, and it is impossible for one person to do on his own.

  9. Flight permalink
    February 25, 2009 10:21 am

    Great piece, but I’m not sure it was written by Charlie Reese ?

    Its been around for quite a while. Posted here a year ago, for example :

    http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/politicians-are-the-only-people-in-the-world-who-create-problems-and-then-campaign-against-them/

  10. February 25, 2009 12:59 pm

    Hahahahaha! Curt gets scammed again!

  11. Rhayader permalink
    February 25, 2009 2:35 pm

    Haha yeah, taken in by web junk.

  12. Chris permalink
    February 25, 2009 3:01 pm

    This blog should be called 38 pitches other people’s stories and columns. Do you ever write any of your own material these days? I hope you don’t get paid when you paste someone else’s work in or leave us a link.

  13. February 25, 2009 5:09 pm

    I just checked again, and it still says “Curt Schilling’s Official Blog” at the top of the page, not “Curt Schilling writes what Chris tells him to.”

    Hold on…

    Yep, still there.

  14. philliesphan permalink
    February 25, 2009 11:28 pm

    the deficit reduction act of 1993 worked. Result was a surplus by 2000…..until the “fiscal conservative” party took charge and bankrupted the country….funny how the private sector runs to an incompetent government when they destroy their private publicly held companies…..and your favorite Andover Mass prep school cowboy turns into a socialist after all his small government BS and hands the peoples money over to save the ass of the “superior” private sector……..government doesn’t work your right when republicans do the governing with their failed ideology…look in the mirror Curt, that’s what failed, you and this silly childish world view.

  15. Ummm permalink
    February 26, 2009 3:09 am

    We voted for higher taxes on the rich and tax cuts for 95% of Americans. We got the tax cut part in the Recovery Plan. The higher taxes part is coming soon. Seems like things are going the way we wanted them to.

    Oh yeah, you voted for McCain and he lost. Sounds to me like now you’re bitter…

  16. Ummm permalink
    February 26, 2009 3:16 am

    “While some names change, there is not significant turnover from one congress to the next.”

    There isn’t? Go look at the makeup from four years ago. Change has arrived and in just two months its meant: Health care for 11 million low income children (SCHIP legislation); Tax cuts for 95% of Americans; A presidential order to shut Guantanmo by next year; The revoking of waterboarding and other practices that much of the world considers torture; The issuing of 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan; The revocation of the ban on federal funding of stem cell research. Funding for HIV prevention that includes sexual education programs; An 800 billion dollar investment in green jobs, infrastructure projects, and education programs. And I’ll go on if you’d like me to.

    Perhaps you should take the advice of the article and stay more informed.

  17. Flight permalink
    February 26, 2009 5:24 am

    Go easy guys; its a great piece, who cares who wrote it ?

    Its indicative of why great nations are crumbling – many people are still blinkered to the depth of the current crises facing us.

    That many of us prefer to throw around cheap shots at others rather than reading the piece, learning from it and doing something about it is a symptom of just what a mess we are in and why we are in it.

  18. SimonPeter Gomez permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:13 am

    This man has obviously never heard of “negative externalities”. Or, even unintended consequences. He also assumes complete free will, that we as people are not influenced to act, sometimes against our own interests, by factors or forces beyond our control (the need for large campaign coffers to ensure re-election would fall into this category) or that sometimes people act irrationally. Haven’t we all done things that later we ask; “why the heck did I do that?”

    One would learn more about politics by reading Dr. Seuss than Mr. Reese.

  19. SimonPeter Gomez permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:19 am

    In addition, there is a constant conflict, especially in Congress, between short term interests and long-term interests. Running up deficits today to be dealt with by other leaders later in order to stimulate the economy or help one’s constituents today is an example. Also, members of Congress are continually pulled by doing what is best for one’s constituents (perhaps so-called “pork barrel” legislation) versus what is best for the country as a whole. Again, the thought of the long-term impact of deficits or deficit spending, is left to others to deal with, assuming that deficits are bad for the economy, which is debatable.

  20. cgpunker permalink
    February 26, 2009 10:54 am

    He’s right about these 4 points.
    – If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    – If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

    – If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ.

    – If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people,it’s because they want it that way.

    And now that the BushCo crime syndicate is out of office, we have a prayer of fixing it. Every single issue outlined below was made intolerable by the last Administration and the lemming Repubs in the House and Senate. It’s not going to be fast, easy or right the first time. But I believe that we’re moving towards fixing the rich first, rest of us second policies we’ve seen put into place over the last 8 years.

  21. Chris permalink
    February 26, 2009 11:28 am

    Hey Oz, pretty sure I never told what Curt to write. Curt can write whatever he wants to, but it would be nice if he actually WROTE something. Telling him what to write would be rude and out of line, but feeding links to the readers is a lazy shortcut.

  22. Mike permalink
    February 26, 2009 1:48 pm

    While I agree with most of the article, and applaud you for posting something that’s not simply inflammatory garbage, I think there’s one thing missing. It’s very easy to blame other people, and this piece gets most people to agree with it because we’re scapegoating those 545 people; the rest of us (300 million minus 545) can simply shout our support.

    But, we’re the problem too.

    The stock market is the biggest scam I could ever imagine. Owning a stock with no dividends is simply a piece of paper. As Mark Cuban says, it’s a baseball card. You buy it, not because it’s worth something, but because you think you can sell it for more to some sucker later on. But when our neighbor makes 10% returns on it, we get jealous. And to keep up with the Jones’, we invest as well… no questions asked. Madoff offered 12%, and so we invested with him – no questions asked. Literally, no questions asked.

    We voted these senators into office. When it came time to police ourselves in terms of fiscal responsibility, we failed. All because our 42 inch television isn’t big enough if we think our neighbor has a 52 inch tv. All because if our neighbor vacations in Hawaii, then Florida isn’t good enough for us anymore.

    We all lived beyond our means, whether we defaulted on a house or not. We lived beyond our means of keeping the planet healthy, of keeping social security healthy, of keeping health care healthy. And now we (might) decide to suck it up for a while and fix the mess.

    It’s like slacking off all semester and having to cram for an exam. We played video games and ate Fritos for 4 months, and now it’s time to actually do what we have to do. Hopefully.

  23. Mike permalink
    February 26, 2009 1:50 pm

    I should add, this piece Curt posted is why I’m most excited about the Obama administration. Policies aside, I think he is willing to bring a higher degree of accountability to the office, which has been absent in years past. Accountability is the first step in us ridding ourselves of smooth-talking, self-centered, greedy and crooked politicians.

  24. Chris permalink
    February 26, 2009 2:41 pm

    Curt, you forgot to add another option:

    5. Take over a media conglomerate and write/broadcast news stories stating your candidate of choice has pretty much already won the seat pre-election and base it on polls that are not fully representing of the entire population. That way undecided voters will elect your candidate.
    It worked for Obama, seems to be the most effective campaign strategy.

  25. RachelC permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:40 pm

    To those who took issue with my comment. The author states: “One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.”

    This is totally bogus. WHICH 545 people, exactly? Is the just-elected Senator responsible for the fact that a congress 50 years ago passed a stupid law?

    My point is that the ‘problems that plague this country’ are often long-standing deep-seated issues that no One Congress can be blamed for causing. Rome wasn’t re-built in a day. Change takes time (way longer than 4 years, in fact, for those Obama-Worshippers)…I think we need change, I’m just not convinced it will happen, but blaming ALL the country’s problems on one Congress is absurd.

    The representatives would have to be unthinkably radical in order to change the way Everything happens in government. Radicalism usually leads to bloodshed and riots. We’ve traveled a long way down the wrong path in some areas, and it will take time to re-trace our steps…you can’t always take a short-cut back to the right path.

  26. Richie D permalink
    March 1, 2009 9:08 am

    Breaking down the word “politics” leaves us with Poli (many) Tics (blood sucking creatures…..and this is where I feel the problem originates today
    Rather than having “professional” politicians and lawyers lead the country, maybe we should turn to the business community. After all, isn’t the country the biggest business on the face of the planet????..and maybe add a few “common” folk” to interject a little “common sense”..something that appears lacking in Washington and many state capitals……
    …..and lastly…….just a personal feeling….. Nobody should be able to sit in the Oval Office, that HAS NOT served in the military. NOBODY should be able to make a determination to send others kids into harms way unless THEY THEMSELVES were willing to go when required……..and to send THEIR children when required……..
    OK .off my soapbox now!!!

  27. March 1, 2009 3:39 pm

    Bug’s Life, the Pixar movie, said it simply–Ants don’t need grasshoppers!

    There is a lot of distance between your average citizen and the federal government. The level of knowledge declines sharply after being able to name the three branches.

    And it seems to me those who do understand it are frustrated, some more than others, for reasons the article mentions and also for reasons I think RachelC touched on. The article is a great snap shot of current day politics, but in the greater scheme of things, the explanation is found by flipping the snap shots back.

    Maybe Pixar will make a prologue for us all?

  28. brb1911a@yahoo.com permalink
    March 17, 2009 5:23 pm

    Open Letter to Republican Traitors From a Former Republican by Frank Schaeffer

    You Republicans are the arsonists who burned down our national home. You combined the failed ideologies of the Religious Right, so-called free market deregulation and the Neoconservative love of war to light a fire that has consumed America. Now you have the nerve to criticize the “architect” America just hired — President Obama — to rebuild from the ashes. You do nothing constructive, just try to hinder the one person willing and able to fix the mess you created.
    I used to be one of you. As recently as 2000 I worked to get Senator McCain elected in that year’s primary. (McCain and Gen. Tommy Franks wrote glowing endorsements regarding my book about military service, AWOL.). I have a file of handwritten thank you notes from Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush I and II. In the 1970s and early 80s I hung out with Jack Kemp and bought into his “supply side” myth and even wrote a book he endorsed pushing his ideas.) There’s more, but take it from me; my parents (evangelical leaders Francis and Edith Schaeffer) and I were about as tight with — and useful to — the Republican Party as anyone. We played a big part creating the Religious Right.
    In the mid 1980s I left the Religious Right, after I realized just how very anti-American they are, (the theme I explore in my book Crazy For God). They wanted America to fail in order to prove they were right about America’s “moral decline.” Soon after McCain lost in 2000 I re-registered as an independent in disgust with W. Bush. But I still respected many Republicans. Not today.
    How can anyone who loves our country support the Republicans now? Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley and Ronald Reagan defined the modern conservatism that used to be what the Republican Party I belonged to was about. Today no actual conservative can be a Republican. Reagan would despise today’s wholly negative Republican Party. And can you picture the gentlemanly and always polite Ronald Reagan, endorsing a radio hate-jock slob who crudely mocked a man with Parkinson’s and who now says he wants an American president to fail?!
    With people like Limbaugh as the loudmouth image of the Republican Party — you need no enemies. But something far more serious has happened than an image problem: the Republican Party has become the party of obstruction at just the time when all Americans should be pulling together for the good of our country. Instead, Republicans are today’s fifth column sabotaging American renewal.
    President Obama has been in office barely 45 days and the Republican Party has the nerve to blame him for the economic and military cataclysm he inherited. I say economic and military cataclysm because without the needless war in Iraq you all backed we would not be in the economic mess we’re in today. If that money had been spent here at home on renovating our infrastructure, taking us toward a green economy, putting our health-care system in order we’d be a very different situation.
    As the father of a Marine who served in George W. Bush’s misbegotten wars let me say this: if President Obama’s strategy to repair our economy, infrastructure and healthcare fails that will put our troops at far greater risk because the world will become a far more dangerous place. So for all you flag-waving Republicans who are trying to undermine the President at home — if you succeed more of our troops will be killed abroad.

    When your new leader Rush Limbaugh calls for President Obama to fail he’s calling for more flag-draped coffins. Limbaugh is the new “Hanoi Jane.”
    For the party that created our crises of misbegotten war, mismanaged economy, the lack of regulation of our banking industry, handing our country to rich crooks… to obstruct the one person who is trying to repair the damage is obscene.
    Just imagine where America would be today if the 14 to 20 million voters — “the rube base” who slavishly follow the likes of Limbaugh — had not voted as a block year after year thus empowering the Republican fiasco. We would have a regulated banking industry and would have avoided our current financial crisis; some 4000 of our killed military men and women would be alive; over to 35,000 wounded Americans would be whole; we would have been leaders in the environmental movement; we would be in the middle of a green technology boom fueling a huge expansion of our economy and stopping our dependence on foreign oil, and our health-care system would be reformed.
    After Obama was elected, you Republican leaders had a unique last chance to send a patriotic message of unity to the world — and to all Americans. You could have backed our president’s economic recovery plan. Since we all know that half of our problem is one of lost confidence and perception, nothing would have done more to calm the markets and project resolve and confidence than if you had been big enough to take Obama’s offered hand and had work with him — even if you disagreed ideologically. You had the chance to put our country first. You utterly failed to rise to the occasion.
    The worsening economic situation is your fault and your fault alone. The Republicans created this mess through 8 years of backing the worst president in our history and now, because you put partisan ideology ahead of the good of our country, you have blown your last chance to redeem yourselves. You deserve the banishment to the political wilderness that awaits all traitors.

    Frank Schaeffer is the author of CRAZY FOR GOD-How I Grew Up As One Of The Elect, Helped Found The Religious Right, And Lived To Take All (Or Almost All) Of It Back Now in paperback.

  29. Huge Red Sox Fan permalink
    March 19, 2009 4:32 am

    Well, if you read it, then it MUST be true.

    So by your argument, our government engaged in a war with Iraq without the support of the United Nations over WMDs that were never found… because the Bush Administration wanted to.

    We took our eye off the ball by abandoning our mission to kill or capture Osama bin Laden as justice for September 11th, 2001 in Afghanistan to launch a preemptive strike on Iraq… because the Bush Administration wanted to.

    Our troops were trained to do jobs the ended up getting outsourced to private contractors that over billed the taxpayers… because the Bush Administration wanted to.

    Thousands upon thousands of U.S. Troops and Iraqi civilians died as a result of the war in Iraq… because Bush wanted to.

    The United States is way behind in energy efficiency and still consumes over one third of the world’s oil resources even though we make up far less than one third of the world’s human population… because the Bush family dynasty has a stake in the oil business.

    On that point… yes, I would have to agree with you for once, Curt. Things are the way they are because the government was not acting on the behalf of the will of the American People.

  30. brb1911a@yahoo.com permalink
    March 20, 2009 8:28 pm

    If Curt re-post’s it, it HAS to be true, just like everything you see on tv, lol!!!!!

  31. brb1911a@yahoo.com permalink
    March 20, 2009 8:29 pm

    Same as I did!!!

  32. brb1911a@yahoo.com permalink
    March 20, 2009 8:31 pm

    The trick is not to BE ONE, Curt?

  33. John M permalink
    March 25, 2009 1:59 pm

    Sweet…I am excluded from the 545. Thanks for clearing that up

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