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With Teixeira signing comes a dose of reality

December 23, 2008

No one should be shocked, at all. Theo has, at least in my opinion, operated within parameters set by he and the club, and stuck to them. Letting emotion enter into this stuff will see you spend for spending sake. Don’t get me wrong, Mark Teixera is a damn good player, but let’s look at this realistically.

Over the next 2 years: 

.279 Avg; .343 OBP; .467 Slug; 810 OPS; 46 HR; 196 RBIs; 166 Ks; 114 BB(A) 

.290 Avg; .378 OBP; .541 Slug; 919 OPS; 72 HR; 242 RBIs; 248 Ks; 158 BB(B)

Based purely on career averages you get the above numbers. Tex’s power numbers will go up if the new NY stadium has the same dimensions. I think it’s safe to say those power numbers would go down a bit in Fenway. Tex is 28, you are paying him through his Age 36 season. Mike is 34, being paid through age 36 as well. Both are Gold Glove players. 

So you could ask the following question: Would you pay a player with this stat line, 10 million dollars, and guarantee him a no trade — 285 avg; 360 OBP; 500 Slg; 860 OPS; 26 HR; 46 RBI; 82 Ks; 44 BB?

It’s not that easy I know, you need to factor in parks, and lineups and much more but on pure stats that’s the bonus numbers a $10 mm bump in one spot on your roster buys you.

Now, I would agree Tex’s power numbers would go down at Fenway. But I would also make the case that these power numbers can be made up by Ortiz alone, as long as he’s healthy. Yes, he needs protection and this lineup is not going to give him the protection he once had, but he can do it and it’s not a stretch.

Personally I am glad Youk is staying at first and Mike is at third. Adding Mark’s bat is absolutely going to make the Yankees tougher. 

Haven’t we been down this road before? That’s not to say this Yankees team can’t win 110 games, it can. But so much has to happen for that to work out.

Please stop with the greedy bum statements too, all of you screaming that would be saying nothing if the Sox had ante’d up. I’m surprised but I don’t think nearly as much as most others. Why? Because not once, never, did you hear ANYTHING from Mark in this entire charade. This is how Scott Boras works, and his clients love him for it. Mark never said he wanted Boston, sources ‘close to negotiations’ did. That and a handful of nickels will get you a quarter.

Stop being surprised in these deals when you hear comments from EVERYONE but the players. Until the player speaks I am comfortable telling you more than 90 percent of what you hear is what teams WANT you to hear through their media ‘sources’. Half of these folks get told things from teams because teams
WANT that message in particular, out there.

Jason Bay is going to be here a full year. That’s 30+ HR, 100+ RBI and a near 900 OPS right there. That helps. He’s a very good defensive player and a very good base runner, not to mention a fantastic club house

Tex would certainly have made this lineup more potent, but scoring the most runs isn’t the solution. You need run prevention and the Sox have that too. Now so do the Yanks, but are you believing that the Yanks just put out $400 mm-plus in contracts and all three players will be worth the deals? When has that ever happened ACROSS a free agent class much less one team.

I think the Steinbrenners, coming off a miserable last season in Yankee Stadium, are dead set on opening the new stadium with a World Series and they don’t care how much it costs. Good for them. You can bitch all you want about the Yankees and greed but they spend money in a sincere effort to win it all, every year. What fan wouldn’t want their teams to do that.

Theo’s not done, at least in my opinion. The club is stocked with VERY tradable young talent and you can bet with this economy teams will be hell bent on unloading supreme talent where possible. Teams other than the NY’s, Anaheim’s and Boston’s.

The AL East just got tougher, if that’s possible, and I don’t think the counter punches are done being thrown.

90 Comments leave one →
  1. peter sarich permalink
    December 24, 2008 12:15 am

    Well said Curt. As a Yankees fan living on Long Island, I love what happened today. As a baseball fan, I would hate to see Boston not going toe to toe with my team. We hate the Red Sox because they are so similar to us. It is a strange relationship, but I think most true Sox fans deep down agree.

  2. Babe Ruth permalink
    December 24, 2008 12:16 am

    Well that’s not fair. I was hoping for you to cry about it too. Oh well. It was a good post, Curt. Merry Christmas.

  3. Sal from the ATX permalink
    December 24, 2008 12:59 am


    First of all I want to thank you for visiting the troops. As a Marine I think its great that players like Johnny Damon and yourself just to name a few go out of their way to help the troops. Thank you.

    Ok now on to this Free agent signing. At the end of the day I truly beleive the Yankees are just trying to win. That said, they run a very successful business and reinvest a good chunk right back into their product. We all know that money by itself doesnt win Championships. But the Yankee marketing machine has just sold a million new Mark T jerseys for $100+ making a good chunk of that money back. At the end of the day its all business.

    This is the part that gets me about Boston fans. Yankee’s are old, So they get younger in the rotation. If the season started today they have 1 starter over the age of 30.

    Yankees spend to much money. If the season started today their payroll would be 20 million less than last year.

    Yankees cant buy a championship – We wont know until Oct of 2009.

    But all of this Yankee hating is getting old. At least ESPN still thinks Sox are team to beat.

    Sox still have a good rotation. But a blister on Becketts finger and god forbid Lester has a flair up, Big Papi doesnt return back to his norm and Mike L isnt the same after surgery. Then what…

    Can we knock the Yanks for trying to get better. Oh well….

    On Paper the Yanks look better

    CC vs Beckett = Flip/even
    AJ vs Lester = Yanks
    Wang vs Matsuzaka = Yanks
    Joba vs Wake = Yanks
    Pettit/Hughes vs Clay B = Yanks

    But thats why 162 games are played.

  4. turk 182 (rsn ny chapter ) permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:32 am

    I completely agree with you curt , and as we have seen over the last handful of years ,whenever the yankees playing this chess match with the sox in the off season it comes back to bite them big time during the season ! I believe it started with contraras from cuba , then a-rod , damon , clemens .so let the pinstriped pansies sign who ever they want , but what concerns me is you left out some important figures in your equations . the biggest factor is losing coco ! and not improving the middle relief ! we didnt need tex , we need a bullpen that knows the strike zone . AND A CATCHER WHO DONT SWING THROUGH IT !!!

  5. Jeff permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:24 am

    Do you really think 89 wins is miserable? It wasn’t the Yankees best year, but come on.

  6. Steve permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:26 am

    Well said Curt. You never know how these things will turn out in the long run, Who would have thought back in 2003 when the Sox weren’t able to get A-rod they’d be better off for it. Had that deal gone through you guys may not have won it all in 2004. Tex is a great talent and i would have loved to see him come to Boston but I don’t see a reason to panic over it. This team has a great foundation around it with guys who know how to win a championship. I can’t wait to hear the reception for Tex when he comes to Fenway as a Yankee for the first time.

  7. BostonRob permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:07 am

    I could not agree with you more! For the past month and a half I have been pointing to Bay’s and Youk’s numbers and asking what exactly they thought we needed. Tex would have been nice, but he’s not a Pujols or a Delgado in his prime. I feel confident that Youk’s numbers will be pretty close to Tex’s numbers next year.

    Merry Christmas, too!

  8. December 24, 2008 6:20 am

    “Theo’s not done”

    He hasn’t even started yet.

  9. Jeff Quamme permalink
    December 24, 2008 6:23 am

    What troubles me is not so much that its Teixiera, or that the Yankees signed him. I am more concerned about getting another bat, and he seemed like the best option. Looks like we will have to move some young pitchers…

  10. December 24, 2008 6:36 am

    Well said Curt! My initial anger has worn off now, hopefully Theo can get to work on some of the other issues the club has like a catcher, 4th outfielder and another starter. Merry Christmas to you and your family and all the best in the new year.

  11. Nate Double permalink
    December 24, 2008 6:52 am

    Well said Curt. As good as Teixeira is I don’t think he’s a $22.5M per year player, especially when you consider that the Sox do have Mike Lowell for two more years (praying he’s healthy) and can likely hold on to Youk as well (it is time for them to start working on a long term deal for him though). With all that being said, the Red Sox do need to do something this off season. A catcher with some offensive power should be first on the list.

  12. paul baranofsky permalink
    December 24, 2008 7:30 am

    theo and the red sox sxrewed up this situation.They had to be smart enough to know damn well the yankees would be a player in the texiera sweepstakes.But we have seen this movie before in 2003 when the red sox tried to circumvent the BA(Basic Agreement)by trying to lower Afrauds salary and when it didnt get done he went to the evil empire.But hopefully the results will turn out the sam.More titles for the red sox and none for the yankees

  13. December 24, 2008 7:36 am

    While I don’t have the numbers in front of me right now, I recall the analysis that Teixeira’s upgrade over Lowell was worth about 2 wins in 2009. At a going rate of $5.5 million per win, you could argue that he is worth that $10 million dollars.

    In this division, those two wins (and the net effect of +wins added to the Yankees) will make a material difference in the Red Sox playoff chances in 2009.

    Long term, the impact is a little fuzzier, there are many shoes to drop yet. I still do think that Teixeira would have been one of the 15 best hitters in Red Sox history by the end of an eight year run with the club (, but at the same time without the context of the “plan b” moves that Theo has lined up (whether it be Mauer in 2011, a stud pitcher via trade, and down the line) we can’t pass full long term judgment on this decision.

    Can the Red Sox find 2 incremental wins in 2009 and keep this team on a long term acceleration without Teixeira? I think so…but to be honest, I think fans (myself included) don’t see the road map clearly at this point.

    I’ll add one more thought that I have heard echoed around places in the last 24 hours. Going the extra $10-$20 million over 8 to 10 years has effectively squashed the potential ARod deal and now possibly this one, yet in negotiations with Boras over J.D. Drew and Daiuke Matsuzaka, roughly the same percentage of contractual dollars over the term seemed to be in the Red Sox offer. This is especially true for Drew. Why is it ok to put the hammer down to sign J.D. and not Teixeira?

    Now…I tend to think that Drew is “undervalued” by many fans and that while the Red Sox aren’t getting $15 mm of production out of him, the are getting more than $12 mm for sure. So the spread isn’t great. But that perception has many thinking that Boras just pwned the Red Sox.

    Well…enough on that…lets look forward 😉

    Merry Christmas!

  14. Jake in rhode island permalink
    December 24, 2008 7:55 am

    Curt came to boston to help win a world series…
    Teixeira going to yankees for only money …
    thank you Curt for the world series win …….
    keep up your great work

  15. Mike Rotch permalink
    December 24, 2008 8:05 am

    Hi, Kurt,

    I love your blog, Kurt.

    And I think the Sox should sign you as a pitcher. Or, if you are not healthy enough, then they should make you the pitching coach of this squad.

    Who better than the Prince of Control (that’s what I call you, Kurt) to teach the young bucks like Dice-K and Becket and Lester how to get ahead of hitters?!

    May God bless you and your family this Christmas season, Kurt. Amen.

    Sandy sends her regards.


  16. DONNA BLANC permalink
    December 24, 2008 8:24 am

    And you? With all of the trading,signing of contracts,and free agents still on the market,where do you fit in with all of this? I see that you are still listed as a free agent. Any thoughts as to where you want to go and what you want to do? If not for Boston,play for the New York Mets(I am here in New York and despise the Yankees;love Boston and the Mets). I definitely think that you should at least play half a season,regardless of the team, and should not go out like this,stopping after physical problems in 2008. But that is only my opinion. Where do you stand on the subject these days?

  17. Todd permalink
    December 24, 2008 8:25 am

    Wow Curt, can’t believe you reacted so kindly here! Of course I personally wouldn’t want to publicly bash an organization after I basically stole 8-million from them a year ago. You’re lying, you know this was a huge loss for this team down the road. Merry Christmas

  18. ModelFranchise permalink
    December 24, 2008 8:50 am

    I agree that every fan base would want their team’s ownership group to compete, but what the Yankees do is absolutely preposterous. I still think the sox are a better team. They have an ample amount of depth in the form of a healthy farm system. If injuries occur we have the prospects to fill in or trade. This is something that the Yankees obviously lack. You only need to look as far as Phil Hughes, Shelly Duncan and Ian Kennedy for evidence. Their equivalence is that of a kid who can’t make the team so he has his Daddy buy the uniforms so the coach puts him on the team.

    Another point of contention for me is the fact that the franchise looks for tax breaks from NY City when building the new stadium and then has the gall to go out and spend almost a half-a-billion dollars on free agents. Nothing less than pure impudence oozing from the Bronx.

  19. stevebob permalink
    December 24, 2008 9:05 am

    I wholeheartedly agree! This makes the Yankees better but I don’t think it’s that much better. They needed Tex to get back to where they were after losing Abreu and Giambi

    If you look at the stats and swap swisher and tex for abreu and giambi you’ve got a net of about 6 HRs and 6-10 RBIs. Granted there is a little more to it than just stats but how is this shift the Yankees from 3rd place to 1st?

    Add to that the pitching they’ve picked up, they replaced Mussina (and his 20 wins) with Sabathia and they replaced Pettitte with Burnett, how much of a difference in wins is that? Not much.

    Now, if they sign Manny, then, you can talk about them being the team to beat.

  20. December 24, 2008 9:07 am

    I’d rather see the Sox invest in more pitching, their offense’ll be fine once Ortiz is fully healed.

    Should they take a flier on Sheets and hope he stays relatively injury free? When healthy he’s as good as Sabathia.

  21. Curt Swift permalink
    December 24, 2008 9:09 am

    I wanted to see Tex come to Boston, but at the same time I didn’t. I love Mike Lowell and what he has done for this team. I hope he will fully recover and the Papi will as well. I agree with management on not overspending. The Yankees are a much improved team, but you still have to play the season. The Sox were one game from the World Series as we were. We didn’t really NEED anyone. Just get our players back healthy and get Jason back with another backup (Salty?) and we’re right there again. The Yankees don’t scare me. We knock the crap out of Sabbathia in the playoffs and I’m not sure Burnett will hold up this year, let alone 5 years. Tex would have been nice, but not necessary. Keep doing the great charity work and Merry Christmas.

    Curt Swift

  22. Bill Mingels permalink
    December 24, 2008 9:31 am

    I am not worried about this move in the least bit. We will be fine with what we have. We also still have options for the future. We still have Lars Anderson in the minors, give this guy a chance. He should be close to ready, definately by the time Lowell’s contract is up. If that doesn’t pan out, Prince Fielder will be a free agent in I think a year or two. People are just going overboard because its the Yankees. The Yankees have been overspending on free agents for a while and it hasn’t got them sqwat since 2000. Even if they still go out and sign Manny, that still doesn’t guarantee them anything. Look at Detroit, they were supposed to kill everyone last year snd what happened? Nothing. Thats why they play the games. Last time I checked the Yankees were a third place team. Bring them on.

  23. Mike B permalink
    December 24, 2008 10:04 am

    Hey,the Sox could have used a true 4 hole hitter but that isn’t going to happen now. The amount of young talent they have excites me and besides we have been the poor little team that couldn’t before so I will take my chances… Going to be a blast watching one of our guys blow one by Tex in game 7 of the ALCS for the win…..

  24. Nate Francis permalink
    December 24, 2008 10:13 am

    Well spoken, Curt. While Teixeira is a hell of a first baseman, we already have one in Youk. Look at their last two seasons and tell me Youk ain’t just as great a player, and only a year older. And homegrown, to boot.

    Look, as a Red Sox fan, this has been an AWESOME decade. Sure, maybe the Yanks use their half-billion in signings to take the division again; maybe Papi and Mikey continue to struggle with injuries. Maybe the Sox come in third. Maybe. But what I’m assured of is a team that will play hard, continue to deserve the highest respect from its fans, and now have that much more flexibility going forward to continue putting great teams on the field for the next decade.

    Would I have loved to have seen Tex in the home whites? Assuredly. But his loss is no great tragedy. Red Sox Nation got its panties all in a bunch over A-Rod in ’04, too, if you recall. How’d that turn out? 😀

  25. Shhh permalink
    December 24, 2008 10:17 am

    “I think it’s safe to say those power numbers would go down a bit in Fenway.”

    There could be a very good case made for Fenway being the 2nd best hitters park in baseball, I don’t see how his power numbers would go down.

    “Based purely on career averages you get the above numbers.”

    Why would you use career numbers? Teixeira has performed quite better than his career numbers the past 2 seasons. Looking at Chone projections Teixeira is a +31 runs per 150 and Lowell is -1 per 150. Teixeira is 3 wins better on offense. That being said, Lowell is over a win better of defense. Theres about a 2 win difference between them as players, which is roughly 10M/year.

    “Jason Bay is going to be here a full year. That’s 30+ HR, 100+ RBI and a near 900 OPS right there. That helps. He’s a very good defensive player”

    Jason Bay is not a very good defensive player. He’s a below average LF, which is a bad defensive player.

  26. dave permalink
    December 24, 2008 10:53 am

    Right on Curt… well said. Since the moment you signed with the sox I have had instant respect for you and how you go about things… no nonsense and straight to the point. you call it like it is… i hope you stick around these parts in some capacity. Merry Christmas to you and your family!

    p.s. Here’s to hoping the sox stock up on pitching. As you have proven in your career, pitching wins championships. I’d love to see this rotation with 4 #1’s (Beckett, Lester, (Peavy, Sheets, Penny, Lowe?), Matsuzaka.. and Wake or one of the rookies as number 5… depending on who goes in trade).

  27. David Vasquez permalink
    December 24, 2008 11:01 am

    I have loved to hate your guts for years now because of all the smack you talk, especially when it comes to the NY Yankees and their fans. You have been one of the most unbiased commentators I have ever heard and your hatred for the Yanks is unequivocally cemented in the minds of most Yankee fans through the obnoxious comments you’ve made through the airwaves and through other media ports like this one.
    My dislike of your antics not withstanding, I can’t help but think how you have always been a thorn in the Yankees side on the field as well as off, especially through your dominating performance in game six of the 2004 ALCS. Because of this, you’ve earned both my hatred and my respect, the former looming much larger still. Furthermore, as a Yankees fan who is unapologetic about his allegiance to his team, I respect and admire the fact that you don’t pretend, for the sake of public relations, to ride the fence like so many sports commentators do. I know around here in NY among Yankees fans you are one of the most hated personalities in sports, and I bet that suits you just fine when in the past you’ve read NY papers calling you all the unflattering adjectives that, for the most part, you rightly deserve and more.
    With that said, I think your attitude in this blog about the Yankees front office aquiring Teixeira and their spending habits is dead on; if the shoe were on the other foot your Sox and the Nation would be praising Theo and Henry and would have most definitely thrown it in our faces, but now as things stand, the rivalry is back and both teams have a very good chance of making it to the post season.
    The Yankees make more, so why would’nt they spend more? Hating the Yankees for being able to afford good free agents is like begrudging the rich guy who lives on Park Avenue or Beacon Hill for being able to afford the luxury homes, the beautiful sports cars and for having the freedom of taking exotic vacations to places that the rest of us can only dream of—it’s none of our business and “good for them” as you say Curt. Besides, if so many people are against it, why wasn’t anything done about it long ago by MLB. No one in the biggest baseball markets, including the Red Sox who spend tons of money as well, truly wants a salary cap. The rich guy on Park Avenue or Beacon Hill is either a very lucky trust fund baby and/or has worked very hard to get where he’s at. No one should hold it against him, and in the same way whether you love em or hate em, the Yankees are only working within the guidelines of the free market society this country and baseball thrives on. Enough said.

  28. Nico permalink
    December 24, 2008 11:19 am

    “You can bitch all you want about the Yankees and greed but they spend money in a sincere effort to win it all, every year. What fan wouldn’t want their teams to do that.”

    It’s not about Yankee greed. It is about the players union stone-walling any attempt at a salary cap.

  29. Richard Miller permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:15 pm


    Although I’m a Yankee fan and I hate your politics (just a little mea culpa backing Bush in 04 would be nice — the guy was a disaster), but this was a very fair analysis.

    You know your stuff and I think you will be a great front office guy one day as you have a great mind for the decisions that are made outside the lines.


    ps destiny and mystique may just be strippers but they just got a luxury suite at the new yankee stadium! 🙂

  30. Brian Goldberg permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:18 pm

    Well said, Curt. I’m a Yankees fan, and I hate it when people complain about the Yanks’ spending. The facts are that the Yanks will have a lower payroll than 2008, contribute more than any team to revenue sharing, and are the best road draw in the game. Plus, the intense rivalry between the Yanks and Sox makes for compelling baseball, and something that any baseball fan worth his weight in salt truly loves. As much as I “hate” the Sox, there isn’t anything better than going to either Fenway or the Bronx with some good friends and watching the best baseball in the world. And it looks like 2009 will be even better. Happy holidays to everyone (even Sox fans).

  31. Mark permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:24 pm

    Curt’s view is really the only way to look at this. The Yankees have been spending more money than everyone for 100+ years and they have won only 26 times. Yesterday’s move doesn’t guarantee anything. The additions of CC, Burnett, and Tex are impressive but let’s not forget that the Yankees have also lost Mussina, Pettite, Abreu, and Giambi. I don’t think they have every been as scary, including now, as when they had Sheffield. We’ve been here before. Does an outfield of Damon, Melkey, and Swisher sound like something the Sox can pitch around? Nady and/or Matsui will be traded and the Sox will counter with pitching moves that will make them even stronger in an already strong departnment. Bottom-line is the Yankees just evened up the AL East and that is good for all baseball fans.

  32. Dan permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:26 pm

    The funniest part about the Yankees spending spree to me is this : CC Sabathia is making $22.5 million a year! Beckett ($10.5), Dice-K ($8) and Wakefield ($4) equal that salary. Oh, and they gave Sabathia a $9.5 million bonus for signing! Lester (>$1), Masterson (major league min = $375,000), Okajima ($1.75), Lopez (>$1), MDC ($500,000), Ramon Ramirez ($397,000), Papelbon ($1 million) all add up to less money. That means the Sox are spending less on their ENTIRE pitching staff than the Yankees spend on Sabathia. Are you kidding me! How has no one brought this up yet.

  33. YankeesRule27 permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:32 pm

    Hey Red Sox Fans.

    It’s a pity that your owner & GM were playing mind games with Boras last Thursday. They had the opportunity to lock up Teixeira for the next 8 years after clearly identifying him as a prioity for the middle of their lineup. No Manny & Ortiz on the decline.

    So stop the rationalizing & crying about losing Tex to the Yanks.

    Bottom line, the Red Sox should have signed him last week

    Curt, I don’t agree with you and your comments/rants over 90% of the time, but your current comment is on target.

  34. Frank permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:33 pm

    Curt….as a Yankees fan, thank you for a very sincere and honest reality check on the whole process. It’s refreshing to hear it from a player, but I wholeheartedly agree with you. And I never thought that would be a sentence I would ever type. Good luck to you this year. Get healthy – the rivalry isn’t the same without you.

  35. John Masters permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:40 pm

    Curt – I’d like to see Theo get Peavy in a trade for someone like Bucholz. That move alone would stomp any of the Yankee moves done this season.

    Tex was a great signing by the Yanks but they overpaid big time. All they did was upgrade the D at first, Giambi put up almost identical offensive numbers. All you’re really getting is a couple more HRs and RBIs this season.

    They’re also replacing 2 great pitchers such as Pettite and Mussina for CC (horrible in the post season) and AJ (won’t stay healthy). So you need to ask yourself, how much of a change is really happening here?

    I feel comfortable going into the season with our current lineup, but if Theo can get someone like Peavy or even Sheets, I think that alone gives us the edge in pitching.

  36. December 24, 2008 1:40 pm

    Look Schil, as a yankees fan you have dominated us. I’m not going to talk about Mark, I want to talk about your health. How’s the shoulder doing? When are you coming back? If you do comeback this season, will you be with Boston? If not Boston would you like to pitch in Arizona or somewhere else? If you choose to answer any or all of these questions answer them on the 09Yanks blog at Thank you

  37. cindi g permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:56 pm

    Thanks, Curt, for your insight. Though I have none of your baseball acumen, I totally agree with the Sox move (or unmove). The number of years with no-trade was too much. I also look forward to a healthy Mike back at third, with Youk at first, and Big Papi hitting like we were accustomed to !!

  38. Gator permalink
    December 24, 2008 1:59 pm

    I think what has me so irritated is mainly the state of the economy and all this BS about a player even being worth that. I don’t think he is and glad Sox didn’t get emotional like we all get over the Red Sox 🙂

    A couple comments made my scratch my head:
    “Bay isn’t a good defensive player” he looked pretty good to me playing at a tough park. Definite upgrade from Manny defensively and I think all the assists Manny racked up were purely because people were guessing Manny would be loafing like he normally did.

    And this one really made me scratch my head:

    “On Paper the Yanks look better

    CC vs Beckett = Flip/even
    AJ vs Lester = Yanks
    Wang vs Matsuzaka = Yanks
    Joba vs Wake = Yanks
    Pettit/Hughes vs Clay B = Yanks”

    CC vs Beckett ill give you even on that, but Aj vs Lester in no way do I see that going to the Yanks. Not only is Lester much younger, but is becoming a stud in front of our eyes, remember the playoffs? And still through 210 innings last year. Wang is not better than Dice, it is being generous to say it is a push. Joba is completely unproven and Wake is an inning eater. I would take Wake to keep our bullpen fresh.

  39. Jim Hamilton permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:02 pm

    Wow, a thoughtful and concise column from someone I’d always disliked…My apologies and respect now due to Curt Schilling. Hearing from a player’s point of view, it brings everything into better focus, and, as a lifelong Yankee fan, I would love to see this rivalry continue. It brings out the best of both teams, the top two teams in baseball, and can bring nothing but good to the sport. Well done Mr. Schilling, from a die hard Yankee fan

  40. Darth Vader permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:11 pm

    You know it’s real convient that when the sox and angels were going after tiexiera, tiexiera was the best player in baseball now that the yankees landed tiexiera the baseball world all of a sudden thinks tiexiera sucks ?

  41. December 24, 2008 2:18 pm

    A lot of people are forgetting the Yanks won 89games with pretty much every bad possibility happening.

  42. TGFizeek permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:21 pm

    What are the chances the Sox do Curt like they did Clemens, Boggs, Damon, Millar and are doing Tek?

  43. reptilicus permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:34 pm

    you can not buy a world series and the yankees have tried more than most. there are too many factors involved in 162 games

  44. MNTwins permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:40 pm

    You can dream about Mauer all you want, he’s not leaving Minnesota.

  45. joe permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:42 pm

    Curt your a joke. If they would of signed him you would of wrote about how he is the face and future. What else do you say after they lost out of them. “We didn’t ant him anyways approach” What a joke.

  46. Gerry permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:43 pm


    on behalf of Yankee fans everywhere….shut up nobody cares what you think your washed up…we were out of the playoffs last year by 6 games….you dont think CC,AJ,Tex and healthy Posada and Matsui will erase those 6 games? Your a loud mouth blow hard that needs a new hobby…nobody cares about what you write cause it has boston bias written alllll over it…keep slobbing down Theo cause he would NEVER put you baack in the rotation…get your popcorn and watch the Yanks beat up on the sawx like old times…you and TEK are as washed up as they get my friend.

  47. Raul permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:47 pm

    Mr. Schilling, please, be serious, at least, for a change.
    By the way, are you still a Red Sox?

  48. Tyler permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:56 pm

    Just in response to comment 3, I would take Lester over AJ any day and I am a Yankee fan..

  49. Christina permalink
    December 24, 2008 2:59 pm

    Thank you for being outspoken and tell everything like it is. One thing the Yankee fans don’t talk about is the fact that the Yankees got tax free bonds from the state to fund the Stadium. They went and blew 423 million to 3 players while they are asking taxpayers to fund close to a billion dollars and then they have a nerve to ask for more money.The funny story is that those taxpayers are not going to be able to go see the games because the tickets are very expensive.Talk about greed. I can’t wait to hear in January how they are going to explain how in the world the value from the land around the stadium went up from 27 to 200 million.And I hope the state will make them pay all that money that they stole from the taxpayers. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thank you for everything!

  50. terry permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:01 pm

    I had to read this several times to figure out what point you were trying to make. Poorly written.

  51. Marty permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:04 pm


    I hate how you comment about everything. I’m not a fan of yours at all. I’m a Yankees fan. However, this is one of the first things I have agreed with you about. Well said. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

  52. Jeff Mills permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:05 pm


    I agree with you 100% The Yankees got the new stadium and they are embarrassed about last season. They tried the Hughes/Kennedy/Chamberlain experiment and it didn’t work except for Chamberlain. Personally, I think that Joba Chamberlain should stay in the bullpen as the set-up man and heir apparent to Rivera. Hughes and Kennedy could be traded for some position players, but the Yankees farm system could take a hit.

    This is where the Red Sox are smarter than the Yankees. And I say this as a Cubs fan and not some brownnoser. I’m a baseball fan first and foremost and if you look at the job the Red Sox brass has done since 2003, it far exceeds the job the Yankees brass has done. The Yankees tried young pitching and, so far, it hasn’t worked. Contrast that to the Red Sox who have used not only young pitching, but hitting in guys like Lester, Ellsbury, Pedroia, and Lowrie.

    Plus, Boston has won 2 championships since 2004. The last time the Yankees won a championship was 2000. Will the Yankees be better? I think so. But remember when they signed Alex Rodriguez and the media anointed them champions the next day? Who won the World Series that year? Exactly.

    Merry Christmas to you!

  53. Lance Couceiro permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:14 pm

    Very good point Curt, I am not so mad anymore about the yankees signing teixiera. this could be another blessing in disguise just like back in 03 with the Arod to Boston rumors. We do have alot of guys on our ball club that have high on base percentages and hit for pretty good power and average. I think theo has alot of trust in Lars Anderson to be a Mark Teixiera type talent when its his turn on the ball club. I am very curious to see what Theo is going to do to improve our team. I think we could take the money not spent on Tex and aquire some pitching through free agency or even exploring some trades. I am not worried about scoring runs, when healthy this team should score alot. As we have seen pitching and defense wins championships and you can never have enough. Thanks Curt for everything you have done in a Red Sox uniform, have a merry christmas and a happy new year.

  54. Kevin permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:16 pm

    Well put, and trust me that is hard to say coming from a life long Yankee fan. I do think Tex’s numbers will be a little better than you have projected and hopefully his numbers will have an impact on A-Rod’s performance. As an active duty member of the USAF I would also like to thank you for your support. Have a Merry Christmas.

  55. jef permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:18 pm


    Thank you for everything you have brought to the sox. I am a huge fan. And i hate to be selfish but if you decide to come back and pitch again i wouldnt want to see you anywhere but in a sox uni. Thanks and keep up the good writing.

  56. Doug permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:24 pm

    As an Oriole fan I can tell you it’s a disgusting mess. I have no sympathy for teams like the Pirates, Royals and Rangers who complain that their teams have no chance. They have every chance in the world. They are just mismanaged. BUT, three teams (despite what TB did this past season) are different. Three teams have to compete over a 162 game season with the Red Sox and Yankees and the Orioles, Blue Jays and Rays just can’t do that. No one could. Don’t get me wrong, the Orioles have been mismanaged into the ground but the new GM has a solid plan that will likely bare fruit by 2010 or 2011. In any other division we’d be excited about those prospects. In the AL east we are doomed, in baseball jail. And that’s just not fair. Wouldn’t it be much more fun if five teams could compete instead of two?

  57. December 24, 2008 3:31 pm

    Curt why don’t you just come out and say it: GAMMONS is the goat here. He’s exactly what you’re talking about. He was USED as the completely biased, ridiculous mouth piece of the Sox front office, and now looks totally stupid. And he should be called out on it.

  58. December 24, 2008 3:37 pm

    Curt. Sup. It’s not about whether or not we should be mad at the yankees for spending money on their team because we would want our favorite teams to do so, it’s that their unique ability to do so to such an extreme is unfair. It’s not a level playing field at all. Every other team in the league is handicapped and it’s because of nothing to do with baseball. It’s not because they have the best scouts or the best coaches, it’s that they have the most money. There is not a single other team that can compete with Yankees on spending. Its not fair that 99% of the other teams have to rebuild traditionally after a bad year (draft, minors, mix of players and chemistry-aka real general manager-ing) and if they cannot do it (Pirates, Reds, Royals) then too bad, but the Yankess can just open up their checkbook and outbid everyone. THe whole thing about professional sports is the numerous factors that come into fielding a good team, but now its about one factor-money. I know they aren’t a shoe in for the title by any means, but I wont lie having three of the four biggest contracts in history on one team is lopsided at best. The Nationals would have given their right leg for just Teixeira. The Yankees now have Tex and A-rod and C.C. Look at other teams like the Red Sox. People like Youkilis, Jacoby, Pedroia, they are all home grown Red Sox. The Red Sox have a dominating lineup mainly because of their ability to mold these players into doing so. It’s the hopes and dreams of all teams. They will create a great farm system that produces big time players. It’s a pure and right way to change a team around. The Yankees don’t have to worry about that. I mean why not just call them New York. Nothing else. Just New York. Because that is the only reason why they are so good. The Angels are a perfect example. They have been dominate in the past 5 years. And with who? Guerrero and Torii as of last year. Then who? Figgins? Kendrick? Anderson? They all contributed but are by no means far and away better than other teams players. They have a great coach (read: best coach) and a great farm system creating amazing depth. THey have Los Angeles (all joking aside) in front of their name but that has nothing to do with it. They are just good because they know baseball. Like the Red Sox, like the Rays now, like the Braves in the 90’s. Why are the Yankees good? Because they have the most money. F that. Salary cap it. Let’s take the out of control money spending out of it and see who’s the best at professional baseball.

    and referring to the post below. at the end of the day its not all about business. At the end of the day its about baseball. America’s past time (maybe not anymore). The fact that it comes down to business ruins the game. If it was about baseball then Boras’ goofy ass wouldn’t exist and the world would be a better place.

  59. December 24, 2008 3:38 pm

    oh yah and curt. you’re legit. My favorite moment was when you woke up groggy that one morning and went off on bonds. that was just comedy. you sounding so much like you lieterally woke up to the phone ringing.

  60. Bman permalink
    December 24, 2008 3:43 pm

    CC was the big haul for the Yanks, not Tex … Tex could do zip to help the Angels beat the Sox. The difference for Tex is Yankee fans will eat him alive in NY. He does not even know what hell awaits him, I hope he has a good therapist. In a year or so Lars will be sitting on 1st base pummeling the ball, and we will all feel silly for crying about Tex.

    Merry Christmas Curt … and all the Sox fans out there!

  61. Kevin permalink
    December 24, 2008 4:02 pm

    People seem to forget that this Red Sox team had major health issues last season. If Ortiz and Beckett revert back to their old forms, that is a major improvement over what the team dealt with last year. I’m not saying Ortiz needs to hit 50 home runs but if he can get back to being a threat in the middle of the lineup, it would be foolish to worry about the team’s ability to score runs. Peter Gammons made a great point in a recent blog post: In six years Theo has brought in only two big money free agents, Dice-K and JD Drew. In those six years the team has been to game 7 of the ALCS four times and won two World Series. In contrast the Yanks have brought in 3 big money free agents in the last two weeks. The Yankees are surely going to be very tough, but it is foolish to think the Sox can’t stand up to them. Plus the offseason is far from over and a lot can happen. (Trading for Jake Peavy certainly couldn’t hurt…)

  62. December 24, 2008 4:14 pm

    Interesting pitching comp gentlemen. Here’s how I see it.

    CC vs Beckett = Flip/even – Bekcett can pitch a big game against NY, but he broke down often last year. CC eats innings, and he had a great 2nd hald, but Boston hasn’t had a problem with him. Still, for the long haul, you gotta make it first, and the Yanks have lost so many arms to injury that CC gives them durability more than anything. So edge NY on this one.

    AJ vs Lester = Yanks – Like Beckett, AJ has had trouble staying healthy, but he’s great when he is. Lester is terrific. He owned us last year. Edge Boston. Lester is a big game pitcher, and he’s proven. we have no idea how AJ will handle NY, and how many innings he’ll give us.

    Wang vs Matsuzaka = Yanks – Both are very, very good pitchers. Wang had back to back 19 games but then imploded against Cleveland, but still, losing him last year made every Yankee aware of what they were missing.
    Especially when Ponson took the hill. Dice K has a ring, and while he’s not great against us, like CC, he dominates the rest of the league. Edge Boston.

    Joba vs Wake = Yanks – Just because the Yanks have pencilled in Joba as a starter doesn’t mean he’ll be able to do that for them for a full season. That said, Wake had trouble last year. Especially in October. I guess if I was going to go into th season with one or the other, I’d take Joba, because when he’s out there, he’s very, very tough to hit. Edge NY.

    Pettitte/Hughes vs Clay B = Yanks” – Who knows? Pettitte was lousy in the 2nd half last year. And because he’s not a Yankee right now, it’s hard to say how he compares to anyone. Hughes was terrible last year, and Clay Buch, while he started off well, eventually began serving em up regularly. It depends on who’s matured more. I’ll go with the star pitcher of the Arizona Fall League, Phil Hughes. Edge Yanks.

  63. YanksFanWB permalink
    December 24, 2008 4:38 pm

    Well said. I’ve been a Yankee fan forever. Every year, I look forward to the Sox/Yanks rivalry. There really is nothing like it in the world. That being said, I agree with you… the AL East just got a whole lot more interesting. I think the Yankees NEEDED to get Teixiera. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not taking anything away from Nick Swisher, but Teixiera is much better defensively and offensively, and is a legitimate first baseman, something that the Yankees haven’t had since Tino Martinez retired in 2005, and he also offers protection for A-Rod in the lineup. That being said, you are absolutely right in that this is how Scott Boras operates. Tex never said anything about Boston or New York. As a matter of fact, the only thing he said was he wanted to be on a winning team on the east coast. To be honest, I whole-heartedly believed that Tex was going to be in a Sox uni next year. In any event, kudos to you for speaking out against the “Yankees are trying to buy another championship” fans. No one could fault the Yankees for using their greatest resource….their money, and you’re absolutely right…any other team in the EXACT same situation would do the exact same thing.

    Happy Holidays to you and your family, and if you decide to come back, I hope I get a chance to see you pitch at the new Yankee Stadium.

  64. matt permalink
    December 24, 2008 4:52 pm


    As you have stated that Theo is not done, is there any substance to the rumor that the Red Sox are “already salivating” ( next year’s free agent Joe Mauer? This would be a great pick up for the Sox. Your thoughts.

  65. cf4redsox permalink
    December 24, 2008 4:53 pm

    irregardless of whatever happend, which sux in my opinion, i’d like to wish you, Curt, your family, the Red Sox organization and everyone a happy and healthy holidays. it is a kick in the butt to Red Sox Nation but i have faith in Theo and everyone else who is making the decisions. Just in case they didn’t think of it….JAKE PEAVY!!!!!

  66. sharon permalink
    December 24, 2008 4:59 pm

    First let me say that I love you Curt for 2004 and everything you went through for us to win!!!
    NOw, Scott Boras is ruining baseball… I’m a huge Sox fan , but I’ll be honest i didn’t want Tex…. cause way too much money and I don’t think he’s worth it, Youk had simular numbers and so, didn’t Bay …… The way the economy is no one should be paid that much!!!!! This is what really kills me is these guys make all this money and then if their at a signing they have the nerve to ask for 150 and up to sign something ……… If it wasn’t for the fans you people would be nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and right after the sox won 2004 season I wanted to go to a signing they had in Rhode Island and every player there wanted well over 100 -299 for a signing depending on what it was you were signing and a 40 dollar fee at the door just to get in…. don’t you people realize that little kids look up to you and want to meet and get an autograph???????????
    We couldn’t go cause we couldn’t afford that, but we were up for all those late games cause we’re diehards , but couldn’t get to meet our hero’s cause they’re too damn greedy!
    All you players should take a seat and think back to when you were kids and realize how well you have it… you don’t have to worry about heating your homes, putting food on the table or just paying your bills…. Give the fans a break already god, you can’t even afford to go to a game… It’s a shame how bad especially baseball has gotten.
    The yanks spent a lot of money and yes they’re our rivals , but even I feel bad for the little guy in New York that’s gonna try and take his kids to a game to see all these players and really wont be able to afford to do it , cause tickets , food at the park and parking will make it so he can’t afford to do so……..
    I’m really fed up with the players thinking they’re god with a bat and ball…. and BORAS should be banned from being an agent……. he’s ruining the sport and making it hard for families to enjoy quiality time together enjoying a game….
    Your not curing cancer your playing ball…….
    I commend John Henry for not going above the limit he set, it’s expensive enough at Fenway….. at least he had the fans in mind and the economy……..
    Merry Christmas Curt

  67. Steve permalink
    December 24, 2008 5:04 pm

    Could anyone name more than 3 players on the Rays starting line-up last spring, you learned them pretty quick though. With a miniscule payroll compared to the top market cities, they did pretty well don’t you agree. Let the Yanks spend all the money they want, it hasn’t helped them much lately has it? So let them spend, it will be all that much sweeter when they come up short yet again with the largest payroll of diva’s.

  68. Bob permalink
    December 24, 2008 5:34 pm

    I do believe the Yankess got better. But if you look deeper, what did they do this offseason other than replace Mussina’s 20 wins and Giambi’s OPS? They are still missing out on Abreu’s OPS. They signed AJ but that is Carl Pavano waiting to happen. He had a great year, finally, after all the arm problems that he has had. That said, are they better than last year? they are younger but better???? We will see

  69. larry permalink
    December 24, 2008 5:42 pm

    clutch double-play-hitting shortstop $21.6 million
    steroid-laden part-time first basemen $23.5 million
    prima donna ball slappin third baseman $27.7 million
    2.1 inning pitching workhorse $17.7 million
    the rest of the roster including AAA pitchers $104.8 million

    getting knocked out of ALDS by a team
    with less than 1/3 of your payroll PRICELESS

    there really are some things money can’t buy.

    let history repeat itself.

  70. BSK permalink
    December 24, 2008 6:09 pm

    I”M a Yankee fan-but would take Youk over Tex in a heartbeat !!!!–lets see what the #’s show in 8 years >

  71. rock permalink
    December 24, 2008 6:55 pm

    yanks will choke still.oh are you serious?cc over beckett?when are in same playing field?meaning healthy?if you pick cc your knowledge is very small on baseball pitching,cc never big in playoffs never and never will,i promise.aj over lester?are you kidding?aj comes big on walkout years..see his record over the years,guess vs. its even..WAng the other playoff master pitcher.haha.pretting close in regular season..i give even.joba vs wakefield?well joba has enormous talent well wakes is wakes..overall joba should have better record..but wakes innings and seems to sliver on by,,i say even .joba doesnt have alot of body of work here guys!!!5th spot..whos pitching for did well huh..other youngsters who never impressed me.vs clay..i take clay as of now…anything otherwise,you must be a retard.

  72. Michael from Newbury, MA permalink
    December 24, 2008 6:59 pm

    Curt, First off, Merry Christmas and thanks for writing as you have done. Your direct statements are refreshing. I don’t think Teo is done either. He would have liked to have him, but as you and others have said before, you have to stay within the guidelines of the payroll set. I still see Theo pulling off a trade for pieces, most likely Texas. The Sox need to address a few positions, catcher and Lugo. I see something like a big deal with the Rangers with an example being – Sox send Bucholz (has enormous potential but some has to go), Lugo, a couple of pitchers from AAA (like Edgar Martinez and Daniel Bard) for one of the Rangers catchers (I would prefer Teagarden, but I think it would be Saltalamacchia), Michael Young and Kevin Millwwod. This reduces the Rangers payroll by roughly 28 million this year and they get their young picthers. Throwing in Lugo and Millwood helps with contracts neither is happy with.

    Thanks again, and I will be rooting against the Yankees like always. Also I hope if you do come back, you make one more run with the Sox. I think they should have let you do things the way you asked. Only ther person involved knows there body. Best of Luck and wishing you and your family Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

  73. WRONG permalink
    December 24, 2008 7:13 pm

    In what universe is Boston similar to NY? In your dreams

    We lost out on A-Rod because we had a budget. Same with Damon, Abreu, Texiera, Lowe, Pedro and countless others. NY has NO budget. They buy and buy and could care less how much.

    The ONLY free agent the red sox have had a contract for over 100 million is Manny and that was not a John Henry, Tom Warner ownership group. The Yankees now have 4 guys making over 160 million.

    Don’t even compare us. You have NO case at all.

  74. WRONG permalink
    December 24, 2008 7:15 pm

    and the Yankee fans ass kissing because they agree with you is hilarious. Next post those same tools will be calling you every name in the book. Of course you kiss their butts because you know you want to be bought in June.

    I appreciate the world series Schilling but I am tired of you. If you want be a Yankee go be one but leave Boston the hell alone

  75. Wendell permalink
    December 24, 2008 9:10 pm

    Hey Curt,

    As a diehard Red Sox fan I wasn’t a bit upset about the Bankees signing Tex. Watching Theo playing mind games is a thrill, and if you think about it that is exactly what is going on. The Bankees are signing all these free agents and losing top draft picks and therefore depleteing their farm system of talent. The Bankees are copying the sox moves step by step and Theo is playing them for fools, Brian Cashman is no top gm all he does is throw bad money after bad money.
    The Bankees have no big game horse to come thru in clutch like you or Josh Beckett. Their outfield should file for social sercurity, pitching and defense wins titles. Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make. And Curt thanks for 2004 and 2007. Merry Christmas to you and your family and to the entire Red Sox Nation don’t worry about who the Bankees will sign next they screw it up just like they did with A-Rod aka Mr Madonna lap boy

  76. Dennis permalink
    December 24, 2008 10:36 pm

    Somewhat agree with your analysis. Keys will be if Ortiz and Lowell are back healthy. IF I were Theo, I would target Joe Mauer. I love Tek, but Mauer behind home plate would be awesome! And someone said something about Peavy. That would be another good counter punch! Get healthy big fella!! I would love to see you back, even if it’s for the second half of the season!!!

  77. K.Bevans permalink
    December 24, 2008 11:15 pm


    Thank You! Thank you for being the voice of reason! Reading your column has set me at ease and helped me to see this whole Teixeira thing for what it is! You are the MAN in this town and I would LOVE to see you pitch here again. Maybe by the July 31st trade deadline? The Yankmees had #21 for his later years. Could we have #38 in yours?


    My Dad says hello.

    K. Bevans

  78. Ant permalink
    December 24, 2008 11:19 pm

    This goes to HAL from ATX.

    You were doing good until you came to the pitching comparisons.

    How can you sit there and say AJ Burnett is better then Jon Lester? What the hell has AJ Burnett done in his career besides live on the DL? Your also dead wrong that Wang is better then Matsuzaka. That is defiantly a red sox advantage but ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say thats a flip. Beckett is Better then CC thats not even close. Joba is better then Wakefield. And i dont know how you can say hughes is better then Bucholz. There both shakey as hell but from what ive seen in there time that has to be a toss up or a slight nod to the sox.

    good day all

  79. Little Pony permalink
    December 25, 2008 12:16 am

    Greetings from Titletown,
    After 3 Superbowls, 2 world series and 1 NBA championship since 2001 and another NBA title and Stanley Cup on the way I think we know a little something about winning. Losing Texeira hurt but you won’t find me whining about it. Championships aren’t won on paper, ask the Devil Rays. Bring it on. It’s going to be so much sweeter to beat the Yanks this time around. The pressure will be very high, be prepared. By the way, i don’t hate the Yankees, I just hate you New Yoooorkers. Stay the hell off the cape and by the way “hows my a** taste?

    Little Pony

  80. December 25, 2008 12:17 am

    Im a yankee fan in RI and i hear curt on the radio and see him in print all the time and everytime he gets a reaction out of me. I dont like alot of things he says but if i’m going to say when i dont like him, ill say when i do too. I think curt really spoke the truth on this one. its real honesty and i think fans of other teams need to look in the mirror before they complain about money spent, especially when the yankees are lowering payroll by roughly 20 mil as of right now still. well done curt.

  81. O'Neill Fan permalink
    December 25, 2008 12:28 am

    Let me start off by saying despite your anti-Yankee bias, Curt, you managed to call it how it is. The Yankees are only doing what any other team with the money (including Boston, which I’m kinda shocked that they didn’t get Tex) would do, and that is spend the money needed to field a better team, especially after a 13 year post-season appearance streak was broken. The fans of the small market teams seem to suffer amnesia and forget that the Revenue sharing money that the Steinbrenner’s pay for going over that soft cap helps keep teams that either don’t want to spend the money or don’t have the funds to do spend alive. Tampa, Kansas City, Cleveland, Minnesota, Oakland, Florida, Pittsburgh, etc… these teams are helped along by the money the Yankees give them year after year. The Yankees doing what they’re doing is actually helping out baseball a lot more than it’s hurting, and that’s one of the reasons. When New York does good in any sport, that sport gains more attention and revenue. Why? Because people either love or hate NY. The NY fans will obviously root for their team to win, and the haters will watch just to see NY burn. Either way, it’s ratings and revenue when NY is centerstage (no pun intended).

    As for the rotations, if you want to look at them in perspective, here we go…

    Sabathia vs Beckett: It’s hard to say, both of these guys are two of the top-5 pitchers in baseball right now. Sabathia, Beckett, Lincecum, Lee, and Santana. I’d say Zambrano and Peavy are just on the outside. This is about as even as it comes, although Beckett has 2 rings to show for it. I’d argue that Beckett did it on better teams, but the ’03 Marlins were only as good as some of the teams that Sabathia pitched for in Cleveland, if not worse.

    Edge: Even

    Burnett vs Lester: Burnett could be a #1 on most teams, and has stopped throwing and started pitching, which has lead to him pitching in more games and putting up better numbers. Not only that, but his career numbers against the AL East are ridiculous. With that being said, Jon Lester is one of the best young pitchers in the game, and is only going to get better. Not only that, but he’s had some success against the Yankees.

    Edge: Burnett, but not by much.

    Wang vs Matsuzaka: Wang is one of the best ground-ball pitchers in the game, possessing a devastating power-sinker that gets a ton of outs. He’ll be another factor in the Yankees winning more games this upcoming year. His Boston counterpart in this comparison can get you out in a ton of different ways, and has more than lived up to his billing that he got as a dominant starter in Japan and at the WBC in 06. Normally, I’d say even, but it remains to be seen how Wang recovers from the surgery, and that’s the deciding factor here.

    Edge: Matsuzaka.

    Chamberlain vs Wakefield: Joba Chamberlain proved that he can be a starter, but it seemed that he got hurt because his body wasn’t used to the workload. As long as he starts the year as a starter, I don’t see the same thing happening again this season. Chamberlain has ABSOLUTELY FILTHY material, and is 23 years old. Wakefield is a knuckleball specialist in the twilight of his career who the Yankees have had some success against recently. He can pitch a lot of games and a ton of innings, but he’s not nearly effective as he once was.

    Edge: Chamberlain.

    Hughes/? vs Bucholz: Both of these young pitchers were VERY HIGHLY touted prospects who came up and gave us flashes of brilliance, and proceeded to struggle afterward. However, Hughes has had some injury trouble, and who knows how he’ll bounce back from it.

    Edge: Bucholz, but not by much.

    As for “WRONG’s” posts, I’ll start off by saying that Boston is one of a few teams that has a payroll exceeding 100 million dollars. Not only that, but they lost out on Teixeira because they were cheaping out on 12 mill. Are you serious? You’re going to balk at the best 1st baseman in the game over 12 mill when you were willing to offer him $168 million over 8 years? Give me a break, “WRONG.” All I see is sour grapes from you. The Yankees and Boston have a ton of similarities. The last time I checked, Boston was the team that started the mega spending, as they tried to outbid the Yankees for Bernie Williams all those years ago.

    Not only that, but get your facts straight, Boston lost out on A-Rod because they tried to send money in a trade instead of sending players, and Selig vetoed the trade. The Yankees didn’t sign A-Rod to his original 10 year 252 million dollar deal that came with him from Texas. They were practically held at gun point when Boras made him opt out for a new deal, and they did what any team in the right state of mind would have done, and that’s given him the deal. How do you let a player that’s won 2 of the 3 previous AL MVP awards that hit over 140 homeruns and batted in 100 rbi’s in each of the previous 3 seasons go without at least tendering him an offer? Thank god you’re not a general manager, you’d run a team into the ground quicker than Scott Boras can say “Payday.”

    Curt Schilling is anything BUT a Yankee supporter, and I doubt you’d ever see this guy in pinstripes, especially considering how a lot of Yankee fans, myself included, have loathed him over the years, for what he’s done against the Yankees, not only for 2004 and the rest of his time in Boston, but 2001 as well.
    With that being said, I have a respect for Curt, because he’s been one hell of a competitor over his career, and I just can’t stand how you can sit there and blast him for showing a little objectivity. You know deep down Curt hates the Yankees as much as anyone that bleeds Boston Red. Curt had a chance to be a Yankee, when Arizona put him on the trading block after the 2003 season, but what do you know, he ends up in your city, and becomes your hero. If anything, Curt Schilling has earned the free pass to say whatever the hell he wants without some two-bit hack like you who has probably never played the game of baseball for what he did over the time he spent in Boston.

    I never thought I’d find myself sticking up for Curt Schilling, what is this world coming to? Maybe it’s all the stress from work these past few weeks finally being relieved. Maybe it’s the Christmas spirit. Whatever it is, god bless you Curt, have a Merry Christmas.

    P.S.: I still hate you for 04, that one hurt.

  82. DrJeff permalink
    December 25, 2008 6:39 am

    The time is now for you to STEP UP TO THE PLATE and buy the 17.5% Red Sox Ownership from the NY Times. And while you are at it, buy the Boston Globe as well………from Blogging to Broadsheet. And if you need a few bucks, Bradford can help you out.
    Happy holidays,

  83. Bob permalink
    December 25, 2008 9:29 am

    Curt, merry xmas

  84. Red Sharpie permalink
    December 25, 2008 1:05 pm


    As usual you are clueless. Maybe if you hadn’t robbed Boston of $8mm last year they could have signed Big Tex. When you give that money back or donate it to charity you can begin to talk about how the Sox handle their finances.

  85. December 25, 2008 4:49 pm

    I have to be HONEST with you…I have NEVER been a big fan of you or your posts for that matter, but I give you SINCERE CREDIT with what you have written here today!!!! You have spoken like a true sportsman and gentleman, and for that as a Yankee fan, but above all a “true baseball fan” firstly/most importantly; I truly thank you for this!!!

    All of the signings the Yanks have made don’t necessarily make us any better going into next year. Millions of things can happen during a season and as a long time player/athlete/top performer you KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE!!! For all us Yankee fans out there know CC could be great and A.J. could turn out to be a “Pavano” for a year or two (big laugh), and Tex could struggle mightily trying to be his hero “Don Mattingly” in his first year and truly stink up our new stadium. All of these are just some possibilities.

    I do look forward to ’09, and again I would like to thank you for your wonderful post (as I mentioned I usually don’t enjoy your posts’!), but this one was written by a true gentleman and sportsman who obviously loves the game of baseball and respects that it is a business first and foremost! I look forward to seeing the Yanks and Sox, and lets not forget Tampa playing it out this year and I wish you and your team all the SINCERE LUCK/SKILL it has to make it a memorable season!!!!

    Merry Christmas

  86. matt permalink
    December 25, 2008 10:27 pm

    It’s really pathetic and tiring to hear Yankees fans speak about how significant a contribution their beloved team is making to benefit major league baseball. Yes, we understand how revenue sharing can benefit small-market teams; that’s not the point. It is less a matter of what is helpful to those teams than it is how such a disgusting figure is seemingly spat out of The Steinbrenner’s mouth as though this were an auction. While the entirety of baseball operations is relegated to the apparently futile tactics of scouting and player development, The Yankees have developed a strategy specifically their own.
    Purchasing talent is their right and that I do not argue. However, the ethics of their business operation is grossly obscene. I’ve never been an advocate of a salary cap in baseball but if this trend continues it should be a necessity.

  87. Mike permalink
    December 26, 2008 10:53 am


    was following masseroti’s chat on Friday in the Globe. He stated something to the effect that your relationship ended very badly with the RS. I was perplexed by this and was hoping you could clarify. Other than what seemed to be a difference of opinion on the course of action with your injury, I never got the impression the mutual relationship had deteriorated. Thanks

  88. Phillie Phan permalink
    December 27, 2008 12:57 am

    Hey Curt:

    I am a Phillie Phan and have been so since 1978. 2008 WORLD CHAMPS if you haven’t heard!!! In fact I attended the World Series game in which the great Curt Schilling pitched an unbelievable game against the Blue Jays and won 2-0. The game gets forgotten with the Red Sox victories, but could be as good as any of the Red Sox starts.

    The only thing that really sucks about the tex deal is that it hurts teams like the Phillies. Teams that don’t have the Yankee’s money (which is every other team in the league) now have to pay more money to players that aren’t necessarily worth it. I keep hoping that these deals will back fire on the Yankees but for some reason they never do. Maybe this time it will be different though.

    Hey Curt, How bout a second go around in Phillies Pinstripes???!!! When you’re ready it would be great to see you again in a phillies uniform.

    See you at Citizens Bank Park after the all star break!!!

  89. Jim Capatelli permalink
    December 27, 2008 3:03 pm

    Curt, you overlook the fact that no other team except the New York Yankees can AFFORD to sign all of these free agents. Of course, as long as you have a joke named Bud Selig for a “commissioner”, this unfair and unbalanced system would occur.

    Baseball ISN’T just like “any other business.” In other businesses, eliminating all of your competition is the goal! Putting them out of business helps you. In baseball, you NEED your competitors, or else you don’t have anything to sell to people.

    If the Yankees continue on this path, other teams might as well go out of business. Fans in other cities might lose interest in the sport if it appears rigged for the Yankees to automatically make the postseason year after year after year.

    How many people would pay to see the “Yankees A Team” play against the “Yankees B Team”? Even the biggest Yankee fans might balk at that.

    Commissioners in the past have voided trades that created too much imbalance and were judged “not in the best interest of baseball.” This Selig guy is a patsy. He would never do that. Maybe one day MLB will have a real commissioner and a system that shares all revenue equally among all teams. Until then, expect the NYY to buy the best and be guaranteed a postseason slot every single year.

  90. Bob permalink
    December 29, 2008 7:56 am

    How does it feel to be the SMARTEST PERSON in the world? A “man” with your brains ought to be PRESIDENT. Sorry your buddy McCain didn’t win. Someday some one will call your big mouth, and put it where it belongs. Where you sit. By the way the YANKEES will kick butt in 2009.

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