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September 12, 2008

Before you click on this link, understand the intent. It’s powerful and there is a message there. Senator McCain would never pay for something like this so make sure you are clear that this was not done by him or his campaign.

Whether you agree with the message or not that’s your right and privilege but when I get things like this I enjoy passing them on to people that want to see them because things like this make me proud to live here amongst people like this.

In this environment someone’s going to go off the deep end and rant and piss and moan, but don’t, I posted this because it’s a message lost amongst the loud noise being made by people screaming to vote for someone or push an agenda that says “remove the troops now” and “What we did was a mistake” and the many other things that in some way show disrespect to the men and woman that have made sacrifices for people they’ll never know because their Commander in Chief told them to.

62 Comments leave one →
  1. redsoxrock3 permalink
    September 13, 2008 9:43 pm

    Great Job Mr. Shilling on your posting. And regarding the comment of a previous post by a gentleman in N.Y…….that you were once “were” and outstanding athlete….You are and always will be an great athlete. Even if you can never pitch another pitch again your knowledge and inspiration to others will far exceed anything he most likely has ever done.

  2. mattmcclime permalink
    September 13, 2008 10:28 pm

    zzzzzzzzzzz

    You all get to vote on November 4. Stop trying to change everyone’s opinion that isn’t your own and speak with your vote. If all of you are as intellectual as you purport to be, your guy will win. If not, accept it and move on with your life.
    If you don’t agree with Schill, why do you keep coming to his site day after day after day? Seriously, do you have nothing else going on in your lives but the ’08 election? It really sounds like a lot of you have absolutely no joy in your lives. If that is the case, I really do pity you. If not, I would suggest a punching bag to let out some of your frustrations.

  3. September 14, 2008 1:36 pm

    Under our First Amendment jurisprudence the most important and respected speech is the spectrum is political speech in a public forum. What Bush has done, and McCain condones, is crippling to free speech. The entire concept of differences of policial views being treasonous or disrespectful is absolutely wrong . Trying to stiffle that discourse is what is disrespectful, unAmerican, and should never be tolerated.

    Finally, I will add that the most respectful think we as a nation can do for our men and women in uniform bring them home and respect their lives.

  4. September 14, 2008 1:49 pm

    I totally understand that Iraq is much better off than they were 5 years ago but at who’s expense? There are many more areas of the world that go through the same problems and nobody feels the need to clean those areas up. There are parts of Africa where women and children are slaughtered for no apparent reason but I don’t see ANYBODY racing there to help them. What about our country who is clearly in the need for help? If things get worse here we might eventually see mass chaos and rioting. When out citizens can’t afford to heat their homes or frankly just get to work it is time to turn our governments focus before we end up the new Iraq.

  5. joeycee permalink
    September 14, 2008 7:50 pm

    Right and the best thing to do is find an orderly, fast way to withdraw the troops from Iraq (and elsewhere), and work on solving the problems we CAN solve here. I have talked to soldiers that have the opposite view. Building socer fields ain’t progres.. the “Surge” was sending lots of soldiers to an area and paying people to stop fighting. The deficit is our biggest enemy.

  6. September 15, 2008 9:52 am

    Sorry, Curt, but I gotta disagree with you on this one — and so would my son, who saw first hand what a disaster Iraq is (and, during his time in Afghanistan, the consequences of Bush diverting resources from the real terrorists. It’s now 7+ years, and we still don’t have bin Laden: disgraceful!).

    What we do have is a record deficit, an economy on the verge of collapse unequaled since The Great Depression, no money to invest in desperately needed domestic renewable energy projects that could lessen our dependence on the Middle East, plus erosion of our civil liberties. I know your great love for the military, but I’d rather have my son’s gunner alive and raising his kids rather than 6′ under in Arlington Cemetery. Another 4 years of McBush and that absolute fraud Palin would croak us.

    Having said all that, glad you continue to speak out.

  7. win74 permalink
    September 15, 2008 1:17 pm

    My son served 15 months in Iraq, in the center of Baghdad. He witnessed things that no person should ever witness. He had a buddy shot and killed on the side of him by a sniper while on routine patrol, friends blow up with roadside bombs, suffered extreme heat and intolerable conditions that most of us can’t even imagine. He missed the birth of his first child and we all spent 15 months of anguish waiting for his safe return. Thank God he did return safely and he believes, as his family believes, that this is so important. They have made an impact and it is positive. There is positive change everyday. And as much as it scares me that he will have to go back over I do understand it. Just so you know that when he came home for his 2 weeks of leave he went to his first Red Sox game at Fenway with his wife and baby!

  8. soxfaninil permalink
    September 15, 2008 1:48 pm

    Curt,

    Here is something I thought was VERY interesting I received from a good friend of mine serving 15 months in Iraq.

    Please give it a read even though it is very long. Thanks, Sean in Illinois.

    (This letter was written by Charles Grennel and his comrades who are veterans of the Global War on Terror. Grennel is an Army Reservist who spent two years in Iraq and was a principal in putting together the first Iraq elections, January of 2005. It was written to Jill Edwards, a student at the University of Washington who did not want to honor Medal of Honor winner USMC Colonel Greg Boyington. Ms. Edwards and other students (and faculty) do not think those who serve in the U.S. armed services are good role models.)

    To: Edwards, Jill (student, UW)
    Subject: Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs

    Miss Edwards,

    I read of your “student activity” regarding the proposed memorial to Col.
    Greg Boyington, USMC and a Medal of Honor winner. I suspect you will receive a bellyful of angry e-mails from conservative folks like me. You may be too young to appreciate fully the sacrifices of generations of servicemen and servicewomen on whose shoulders you and your fellow students stand. I forgive you for the untutored ways of youth and your naiveté. It may be that you are, simply, a sheep. There’s no dishonor in being a sheep – – as long as you know and accept what you are.

    William J. Bennett, in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997 said: “Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident.”

    We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

    Then there are the wolves and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy. Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

    Then there are sheepdogs and I’m a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf. If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, warrior, someone who is walking the unchartered path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.

    We know that the sheep live in denial; that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids’ schools. But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid’s school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep’s only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

    The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf.
    He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours. Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn’t tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports, in camouflage fatigues, holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, “Baa.” Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

    The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them.

    This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door. Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel?

    Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter. He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle.
    The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed, right along with the young ones.

    Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, “Thank God I wasn’t on one of those planes.” The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, “Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference.” You want to be able to make a difference. There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population.

    There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of
    violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language:
    slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself. Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I’m proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

    Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When they learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd and the other passengers confronted the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers – athletes, business people and parents — from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

    “There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men.” – Edmund Burke. Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn’t have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision. If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior’s path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolves comes knocking at the door.

    This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between.

    Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. It is okay to be a sheep, but do not kick the sheep dog. Indeed, the sheep dog may just run a little harder, strive to protect a little better and be fully prepared to pay an ultimate price in battle and spirit with the sheep moving from “baa” to “thanks”.

    We do not call for gifts or freedoms beyond our lot. We just need a small pat on the head, a smile and a thank you to fill the emotional tank which is drained protecting the sheep. And when our number is called by “The Almighty”, and day retreats into night, a small prayer before the heavens just may be in order to say thanks for letting you continue to be a sheep.
    And be grateful for the thousands – -millions – – of American sheepdogs who permit you the freedom to express even bad ideas.

    Sincerely,
    Charles Grennel
    Robert Jones, MSgt(ret), USAF
    NK Sturgis, Pres N.GA Nam Knights

    Remember the price of freedom is paid with blood…pray for our troops

    Respectfully,

    CPT JESSICA V. FINNEGAN
    XVIII ABN CORPS, G3 XO / AVN OPS Officer
    COM: 910-396-6402/7402
    DSN: 236-XXXX

  9. mattmcclime permalink
    September 16, 2008 7:55 pm

    calsgal,
    Can you point to one instance in which Bush or McCain tried to stifle free speech? I hear this all of the time, and I don’t think that anyone has ever had their right to free speech taken away. People march down the street with signs comparing Bush to Hitler… if he wanted to stifle free speech, wouldn’t he start there?
    C’mon… Just one example where Bush or anyone associated with him has done so. If you can cite just one, I will totally agree with you and concede the point.

  10. J.R. permalink
    September 18, 2008 12:29 pm

    This will be a rant; still drinking my coffee.

    On record, I’ll always support or troops as they are only doing what they are being ordered to do.

    A vote for McCain or Obama will get us nowhere. Another 4 years of the same old same that has permeated this country for the last 8 years.

    The war is Iraq is a mistake and will not end until we pull out. Like Vietnam, we are fighting a losing battle. A foreign enemy (The U.S.) meddling in the affairs of other nations as an invading force and an illegal war to boot.

    $800 Billion by the end of 2008
    Over 4000 American deaths (30,000 wounded)

    For what ? The Iraqi people ? Do people really believe this in 2008 ? This war is a war for oil and the Military Industrial Complex.

    This war on terror is another misguided idea. The radical islamists that have targeted our country and world interests hate us because we ARE THERE. They do not hate our freedom or our McDonalds and MTV. They hate us, because we have invaded their countries (Iraq, Afghanistan …) and have meddled in their affairs of which …

    The Constitution tells us is a bad idea.

    McCain will keep us there indefinitely and that includes long term bases (Think Korea, think Germany). But why ? Why do we have over 700 based around the world ? What does this have to do with defending Americans ? We can’t defend our borders from illegal entry and we surely can’t defend our country with almost half of our combat personnel overseas.

    Iraqi polls tell us THEY DON’T EVEN WANT US OVER THERE. 70 percent.

    So save the ‘doing it for the Iraqi people’ spin. We’re doing it for the oil and the MIC. I did my time in service (as did my father, brother and grandfathers) and you have two types of servicemen; those that can think for themselves and those that are so ‘hard for the guard’ they actually buy into the propaganda that is being fed to them. God bless em’ because we need people like this to serve in our Military.

    The majority of servicemen and women that actually do think for themselves will be out at the first chance they get.

    A newsbite:

    “Recently. AL-JABERI was asked how the public perceives the 104-acre, $700 million U.S. embassy in Baghdad, which consists of 27 buildings and 3,000 employees. Jaberi ripped its massive scale:

    AL-JABERI: It is certainly larger than the diplomatic mission for which it has arrived for. … I mean why do we need 3,000 employees in an embassy in Iraq if we consider it as a diplomatic mission like any other diplomatic mission? From the principle of reciprocity, would it be appropriate for Iraqis to establish a 3,000 employee embassy in Washington? … It [the embassy] certainly would not be a very positive signal to the Iraqi people.”

    and this tell tale:

    “Spencer Ackerman notes that al-Ulayyan, when asked about the invasion of Iraq, remarked: “I would prefer if it didn’t happen, because it led to the destruction of the country. The U.S. got rid of one person. It put in hundreds of persons that are worse than Saddam Hussein. Unfortunately, now Iran is going into Iraq, and this is under the umbrella of the United States.”

    Our country has become the Empire who polices the world in the interest of oil and military.

    I can’t even believe any person in thier rational mind would vote for either of these two clowns. Big government up our tails and assuming they know what is best for the American people.

    We run smack towards China, we run smack towards Iran and now we are running smack at Russia (condemning them of the same thing we are doing). Why ? Do we really think any of those countries will try an invade us ? Why do we meddle in their affairs ?

    Wake up. Vote for anything but Democrat or Republican. The two party system is a disaster. A disaster manipulated by the Main Stream Media who has long ago abdicated their responsibility to report the truth with their media blackouts.

    McCain is the ultimate neoconservative. Like Bush, he supports federal power, executive authority and more often than not leans towards the imperial style presidency.

    Aghhh. Rant over. Need more coffee.

  11. September 18, 2008 1:21 pm

    Matt, here’s one specific example. In a brief filed in federal court last year, the President stated: “The president’s right to control his own message includes the right to exclude people expressing discordant viewpoints from the audience.” The case involves two pepole who were removed from the crowd at a Bush event because they arrived in a car with an anti-war sticker on it. Similar occurrences have happened at many other Bush events, and there is generally a “free-speech” zone (note the irony in the name) at Bush events where anyone looking or appearing different or holding dissenting signs is removed. Has nothing to do with security and everything to do with stiffling dissent and limiting real free speech.

  12. 38cantpitchnemore permalink
    September 18, 2008 6:34 pm

    Hey Curt,

    Save the republican agenda speak for your millionaire cronies you associate with. Most of us are in an economic crisis. Inflation and tight budgets are things that dont affect you but do the rest of us. I am a union member with paid healthcare but still struggling to support my wife and two kids and plan for my retirement. John McCain wants to tax me for the health benefits I receive and cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans at the same time. He spits in the face of the working middle class worker. And the thought of his running mate becoming president is frightening. Lets see if the bozos who put Bush in twice are actually dumb enough to vote for 4 more years of his policies. Republicans are sending this country to hell in a handbasket. Im not saying Obama is a flawless candidate by any means, but the thought of an out of touch OLD man who wants war scares me even more

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