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September 12, 2008

Before you click on this link, understand the intent. It’s powerful and there is a message there. Senator McCain would never pay for something like this so make sure you are clear that this was not done by him or his campaign.

Whether you agree with the message or not that’s your right and privilege but when I get things like this I enjoy passing them on to people that want to see them because things like this make me proud to live here amongst people like this.

In this environment someone’s going to go off the deep end and rant and piss and moan, but don’t, I posted this because it’s a message lost amongst the loud noise being made by people screaming to vote for someone or push an agenda that says “remove the troops now” and “What we did was a mistake” and the many other things that in some way show disrespect to the men and woman that have made sacrifices for people they’ll never know because their Commander in Chief told them to.

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  1. mindfulmission permalink
    September 12, 2008 10:14 am

    Senator McCain would never pay for something like this so make sure you are clear that this was not done by him or his campaign.

    Ha… are you serious? Let me guess… McCain wouldn’t lie either? Oh wait.

    And no, saying that Iraq is a mistake is not disrespecting the troops. At all.

    And please explain why troops donations are significantly higher to Obama than to McCain.

  2. alfrank permalink
    September 12, 2008 10:21 am

    Dear C.S.

    You were once an outstanding athlete, whose achievements and successes ( even against my home teams ) were to be greatly admired.

    Unfortunately, you now represent what has been wrong in this country for the last eight years – You are reactionary, arrogant, ill informed or perhaps even stupid with no reluctance to share such stupidity with the world. I don’t quite understand how the notoriety you achieved on the playing field gives you the license to think that anyone really cares as to what you think. In the words of Ben Hecht, you are nothing but “an unctuous bile peddler for whom speech is a form of masturbation”

    It’s really a testament to how trivial and adversarial that our society has become these last eight years that anyone would give a fiddler’s fart as to what you think – or perhaps there is a vacuum in New England that permits this kind of crap to even reach the newspapers – of course you are entitled to your opinions and I hope that you would agree that I am entitled to mine.

    Arthur L. Frank
    New York City

  3. cytotoxict permalink
    September 12, 2008 10:25 am

    I like the song at the end, it reminds me of the movie ‘Wag the Dog’.

  4. dannynelson permalink
    September 12, 2008 10:29 am

    Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. I put a lot more stock in the views of soldiers like this one who have firsthand knowledge of what it takes to ensure freedom than I do the talking heads. Whether you agree with the war or not, it is imperative that we support our troops.

    Danny Nelson

  5. September 12, 2008 10:40 am

    I understand why this feels right. But the sell job that the US is in Iraq for liberty and freedom is the ultimate bait & switch. If so, where is the US in Africa (Darfur!!)? Tibet? etc..etc?

    It’s not an issue of “mistake” – it’s an issue of going to war under false pretenses. Remember weapons of mass destruction? The ones that the UN inspectors couldn’t seem to find before they were booted out? Afghanistan is the place that truly breeds terrorism – and there are less troops there than Iraq. And other nations support the efforts in Afghanistan too.

    I want someone to tell me in clear terms why the US invaded Iraq – I still don’t get it.

    PS – no matter how we got here – picking a date to pull out the troops without any other considerations is foolish.

  6. September 12, 2008 11:10 am

    Not bad, but I wish he’d passed on that horrid Lee Greenwood song.

    Just because a song is patriotic doesn’t mean it can’t suck.

  7. ahl0003 permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:23 am

    Maybe you could start a new blog in which you talk about, you know, baseball?

  8. gotpoetry permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:25 am

    You are yet another rich guys telling those who make a LOT less money than him to vote against their own self interests.

  9. adammarquis permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:25 am

    I cannot speak for everyone who was anti-war, but to say that there is anti-soldier sentiment hidden in my speaking against the war is wrong. In fact, it is respect for our armed forces that drives it.

    Sending young men and women out to risk their lives is the greatest burden our government shoulders, and I simply don’t feel we weighed the human cost of this war versus the perceived benefits when we choose to fight it. To ask so many American families and American soldiers to make the ultimate sacrifice, that is a power that should be reserved only for the greatest threats.

    I won’t detail my reasons, because that’s not what I’m trying to say. My point is this: I am not anti-war to diminish the contributions of our soldiers, I am anti-war because I place a high premium on risking their lives.

    I think this is true for many in the anti-Iraq war camp, in an ideal world it would be true for all of them.

  10. September 12, 2008 11:38 am

    Curt….Thank you for posting that. You are correct that the overall message gets lost and it takes testimonials like this to give us all a reminder of the sacrifice our troops are making every day in Iraq. Thank you once again.

  11. stevebeckett permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:44 am


    Awesome! My best friend since 2nd grade has done a tour in Iraq, one if Afghanistan, and is waiting for word on whether he’ll get into special forces to go back and serve. He’s the freaking man! I was talking about this last night with my wife over dinner, his choice – to be willing to give his life so that she and I, and people in other countries who thirst for freedom, can be free to live the life we dream of – is more than humbling. It almost moves me to tears; b/c I wasn’t brave enough to make the same choice he did. It’s incredible the nobility these men and women have – and it’s awesome to hear someone in your position use your platform to honor this service, not disrespect it.

  12. ike6116 permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:59 am

    John McCain doesn’t know how many houses he owns or what kind of car he drives, he refers to Iran / Pakistan borders that don’t exist and admits he doesn’t know enough about the economy as he should. I’m sorry but after 8 years of an anti-intellectual president I cannot in good conscience vote for another.

  13. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 12:02 pm

    Are the 100,000 dead Iraqis better off? Are those dead women and children happy we liberated them? Are the 6 million people who have lost their homes happy? That is the DUMBEST video I have ever seen.


  14. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 12:05 pm

    Now people saying “remove the troops now” and “What we did was a mistake” are being disrepectful to the troops? That is quite a reach even for mouth breathers like this idiot in the video.

  15. jdarnold permalink
    September 12, 2008 12:16 pm

    I’ll never understand why folks like you insist on setting up the straw man of “disrespect the troops”. Believing it was a “war” that was started with lies, botched at the top by “HQ Heroes”, and one I and a majority of my fellow citizens want to end as soon as possible, in now way shape or manner shows any disrespect to men and women like my nephew who risk their lives every day on the front lines. It isn’t disrespectful to insist we have a plan to get out of this quagmire ASAP. And you and your ilk are just ducking the tough questions by conflating this desire with disrespect of the troops. Repeat after me – there is *no* connection. I have the utmost respect for the job my nephew does as a member of a Stryker team, and I want him safe from a “war” that the neocons have never been able to define even a victory, never mind an exit strategy. And I refuse to let you rephrase it in any other way.

  16. burnc83 permalink
    September 12, 2008 1:12 pm

    Curt, I have to respectfully disagree with the statement that disapproving of the war somehow shows disrespect to the men and women who have made sacrifices before, during, and will make them after this war is over. I am sure the many Iraq veterans that oppose the war do not feel they are disrespecting their fellow soldiers that are deployed. I am sure that they feel they are standing by their friends by choosing to oppose, by choosing to say we want them to come home in one piece. As a step-daughter of a Viet Nam veteran (and like McCain was also a POW) whose body is war-torn, and having both of my grandfathers serve in WWII, I can still say that I do oppose this war. I can say I oppose it not just because of the administration that sent these troops there, but because of what these soldiers will come home to, how some of them were duped by their recruiters, by how badly the VA system is shot to hell, how many of them make so much less than their peers that chose not to enlist. Perhaps, I would support our Gov’t and this war more if I knew that the men and women that they are using as PAWNS in this war that are sent over will be taken care of when they get back. I support 100% the men and women that are serving there, but it makes me no less patriotic to have a dissenting voice than to say I agree 100%. I see this video as a way to bully people into voting for McCain, not as a respectful message stating why someone should vote for him. The great thing about being human is that we can do two things at once. We CAN support our troops and STILL disagree with the reasons for that we were originally told we were going to war for, nevermind the reasons for which we are still there. We CAN still admit our mistakes and at the same time say, “now we need to finish the job.” I think anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that we will not be out of Iraq within the next year or two. We’re too far in to back out completely, but to start making preparations for withdrawal is in our best interests. There are also other issues surrounding the campaign other than the war, and those should be mentioned as well. Please, if you wish to sway anyone to vote for McCain, highlight other issues that are important… Like for instance, our economy, or healthcare, or oil prices. Our country is hurting and needs a leader that can see other things beside continuing the war in Iraq, and can help AVERAGE American people – those that make less than $100K a year – to be able to live as comfortably (read: not struggling to live within their means) as their wealthier counterparts. I think you are an intelligent man, and I admire a lot of the work that you have done – but I think that by attacking people’s point of view, or referring to them as disrespectful because of their personal views is disrespectful itself. I hope this is not taken as a rant toward you, but just as a respectful voice of opposition, and the explanation behind the opposition. Good luck with your campaigning, but I shall not be voting for McCain.

  17. celticswin permalink
    September 12, 2008 1:15 pm

    Your house has been on the market since March, perhaps you should lower the price and move one to where your opinions are appreciated. May I suggest a midwestern/southern state.

    You happen to reside in a very liberal part of the country. Arguably, this (northeast) happens to be the most educated part of the country as evidenced by the top schools, type of industry and median salary. Is it any wonder that most of your post respondents blast you and your simplistic black or white opinions. To which you cleverly respond with, ‘don’t read my post’. Fair enough, however when you say anything in a public form there will oftentime be differing views.

    You were one heck of a pitcher. Forrest Gump was one heck of a ping pong player.

  18. boscoe123 permalink
    September 12, 2008 1:17 pm

    Was Dick Cheney in the background pointing a gun to his head?

  19. September 12, 2008 1:27 pm

    By this gentleman’s logic, the political leadership could give the order to invade Canada, Iran, Russia, and Switzerland tomorrow, and as soon as any American serviceman was injured carrying out those orders, it would be demeaning their service to disagree publicly with the politicians’ decision.

    You don’t know what patriotism is. You know only nationalism.

  20. September 12, 2008 1:43 pm

    Also, Iraqis don’t really like this “freedom” we gave them, in the form of chaos and a few hundred thousand dead Iraqis.

    “According to this poll commissioned by the BBC, ABC and NHK to assess the effects of the US military’s surge strategy, 70 percent of Iraqis believe the strategy has made Iraq’s security situation worse. The poll finds 47 percent of Iraqis want US-led forces to leave Iraq immediately and 34 percent want the troops to leave when the security situation improves.” (NOTE: poll is a year old; maybe things have changed somewhat since then, with violence in 2007 returning to 2005 levels there, though it began to rise again early this year).

  21. Kriggles permalink
    September 12, 2008 2:03 pm

    “jonnyjbones puked:

    That is quite a reach even for mouth breathers like this idiot in the video.”

    I see the liberals have their panties in a bunch again using ad hominem attacks on people who put their lives on the line to give them the right to open their big pie hole they keep putting their foot into.

    Keep it up, America is watching and will decide for themselves who is fit to lead the free world. Rabid virulence from people like you only helps drive home how vile and devoid of humanity and morals the far left really is.

  22. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 2:04 pm

    I have been thinking about it and the more I do I have to admit I don’t respect ALL the troops.

    That isn’t to say I don’t respect some of the troops. Or even that I don’t respect the troops who believe in the Iraq mission, because I do respect them.

    The type of troops I don’t respect are the ones who try to tell me (and others) what we should be doing in respect to supporting their mission. If they ask me to donate to wounded soldiers funds then I do and have. If they ask me to donate money to send care packages to Iraq then I do and have. If one of them was collecting money for the family of some poor soldier who lost his life then I certainly would whip my checkbook out in a minute.

    However, please don’t tell me I HAVE to support this war or vote for a certain person because otherwise I am being disrepectful. Because when you do that then I feel you have earned my disrepect as an individual.

  23. September 12, 2008 2:04 pm

    “I don’t quite understand how the notoriety you achieved on the playing field gives you the license to think that anyone really cares as to what you think.”

    Hey, alfrank, you’re the one who came to Curt’s website to read them. So I guess *you* care what he thinks.

    I may not agree with Curt on everything, but I hardly see why him being a baseball player means he should have less right to express his opinions on his own blog than anyone else!

    Keep up the good work, Schill.

  24. mskeadas permalink
    September 12, 2008 2:44 pm

    “Keep it up, America is watching and will decide for themselves who is fit to lead the free world. Rabid virulence from people like you only helps drive home how vile and devoid of humanity and morals the far left really is.”

    Morals and politics or course do go hand in hand in elections at times. What is often lost is relativism. This article explains it well:

    Check it out

  25. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 3:04 pm

    “liberals have their panties in a bunch”

    “vile and devoid of humanity and morals the far left really is”

    Statements from the openminded.

    Kriggles please debate me on anything substantial.

    How about this? How was invading Iraq helping to protect my right to free speech?

    Please explain how this is true with a straight face and a reasonably convincing argument and I will personally write this soldier and apology for calling him a mouthbreather. I’ll even make a donation to Curt’s charity in honor of Kriggles.

  26. redlightgreen permalink
    September 12, 2008 3:22 pm

    It must be nice getting paid eight million bucks to sit home and blog.

  27. September 12, 2008 3:22 pm

    My heart goes out the the man in the clip. He was on the front lines and put his life at risk for me, my family, my children and my friends. He lost a leg (apparently) fighting for us. I would never want to diminish his service. I wouldn’t want to diminish my own brother’s service who is in Fallujah for the second time.

    The fact that we disagree about the war, however is a feature of our democracy, not a bug. The fact that we disagree and can talk about whether Iraq was a mistake makes the sacrifice of men like the one featured here more valuable, not less.

    I honestly believe that by not casting my vote for McCain/Palin, I’m making the better choice for our country, politics aside.

    This war, this divisiveness of the past 8 years, this lack of leadership has hurt us and I don’t see John McCain as the leader who will pull us out of this. He’s a great American who has sacrificed much for this country – but not the leader we need at this time.

    It’s good that we’re able to talk like this though . . . and for that, the generations of Americans who have fought and died for this country deserve our gratitude.


  28. stevebeckett permalink
    September 12, 2008 3:24 pm

    If “47 percent of Iraqi’s want US out of Iraq” doesn’t that mean that 53 percent want us there? Thank GOD for democracy….something Iraq didn’t have before we got there.

  29. Kriggles permalink
    September 12, 2008 3:49 pm

    “Kriggles please debate me on anything substantial.

    How about this? How was invading Iraq helping to protect my right to free speech?”

    You fail to seperate simple concepts.

    One, I didn’t support the invasion of Iraq. That invasion was based on faulty intel and the President and Congress (you know, the Congress Hillary and all your other liberal buddies agreed on allowing us to go into Iraq because the President by himself cannot use unilateral military force anywhere without their approval. Do you need me to pull quotes from Hillary and many other liberals who used language very similar to Bush pre-invasion and gave the green light to go in?)

    The “invasion” in Iraq in of itself has nothing to do with protecting your right to freedom of speech. Now here’s the part where your little brain fails to understand. Members in the military who are fighting a war for their country, whether it was started justly or not, are fighting and dying for the principles this country was founded on. You know, the Constitution. So if a former soldier gets up and makes a YouTube video saying why he thinks McCain will be a better leader, that is his choice you are free to disagree with him. When you cross the line and attack him for being a member of the military who dares to go against what you believe you are not attacking his point of view. You are attacking him as a soldier who is defending his nation.

    P.S. Although AQ was not in Iraq pre-invasion, Iraq (to our own discredit) became a magnet for radical ismalic terrorists to get their shot at killing American troops. So even though it was inadvertant, the troops fighting “AQ in Iraq” are fighting against enemies of the United States who want to deprive you and me of our rights including the freedom of speech.

    But I can tell someone like you never served his country. I did, and I respect people’s right to disagree. But the hatred coming from the far left is rabid and vile and completely ignorant. The same level of ignorant hatred that the hippies in the 60’s showed in spitting on our troops when they came home from Vietnam and calling them babykillers. Funny, a president with a (D) next to his name got us into that unpopular war.

  30. geekrev permalink
    September 12, 2008 4:01 pm

    Things may be better in Iraq then they were (although the educational system is still much worse than it was under Saddam), but at what cost?

    How many dead and wounded American troops are there? And there even more dead and wounded Iraqis?

    I don’t believe in success at any cost and neither should anyone who claims to support our troops.

    There were other options for ending Saddam’s reign in Iraq that went unexplored. Instead we were lied to and told that their were stockpiles of WMDs that we needed to neutralize.

  31. bosoxcratic permalink
    September 12, 2008 4:42 pm


    Saddam provided a rattrap that has enabled us to exterminate the most radical Islamists. We had to force them to come out and fight our military instead of our civilians. They flock in droves to Iraq, part of their holy land, like flies to …, which allow our guys a chance to fight them. For every one extremist killed, someone in the world gains the right to speak without fear of execution by militant extremists. These extremists are the enemies of free speech. Research Theo van Gogh, Taslima Nasreen, Salman Rushdie, Daniel Pearl, Geert Wilders and Kurt Westergaard. Therefore, our soldiers secure your free speech every time they eliminate one of these terrorists.

    As a reminder, they (terrorists) invaded OUR SOVEREIGN nation MANY times before we finally fought back.

    If Saddam would have played by the rules set forth in the Gulf War treaty he would still be in power, free to gas, torture and oppress the people of his nation.

  32. tdmtown permalink
    September 12, 2008 4:48 pm

    28 stevebeckett

    If “47 percent of Iraqi’s want US out of Iraq” doesn’t that mean that 53 percent want us there? Thank GOD for democracy….something Iraq didn’t have before we got there.

    Well Curt, there go “your people” again.
    Just for the sake of discussion, lets just say the poll is valid.
    47% want us out immediately
    34%want us out when it’s more stable
    53% want us to stay????
    might that be more like 19%, and thats not to say there wasn’t other options than
    “we want you to stay”??????

    I was going to write another long response, but it’s been covered.
    You are a nationalistic idiot who just falls in line. Have an original thought
    of your own.

    I read the recent Jed Hoyer interview where he mentioned your
    “negotiating for dummies” book in your office during the ’03 negotiations.
    Cute, and all, glad you came here, AS A PLAYER, but………

    So far, the books you obviously DON’T have.

    “How the 3 branches of government ACTUALLY work, for dummies”
    “How to intellectually defend, an intellectually indefensible war, for dummies”

    Books you obviously bought.

    “How to pretend that war and politics are a game like baseball, and can actually be “won”, for dummies”
    “How to confuse nationalism for patriotism, for dummies”

    I actually think you are just a whore. You are the same type that glom onto you because you are a “famous” athlete. You know the type.
    Except since you have wealth , professional success and “fame”, the only thing you don’t have is actual power. I think your ego craves what georgie and johnny have, and are a sad sycophant to them and their politico world.
    So if you can “schill” for them and get to rub elbows with them,
    you get a woodie. Hell, maybe a whitehouse invite, or a night in the Jefferson bedroom (or have you been there already)

    You are transparent.

  33. September 12, 2008 5:45 pm

    I don’t know how many of our posts you actually have the time really read — but that being said, I’ve mentioned on many an occasion that I work at Hanscom AFB and have for many years.

    I work directly with men and women from my Squadron who have been deployed and/or go TDY for extended periods of time to Iraq & Afghanistan. Some of them agree fundamentally why we went in, some do not; we’ve had discussions regarding the ideaology of going into this war which is why I can say that some of them disagreed. But NONE of them, have ever come back saying that it was a waste, nor do any of them feel that we haven’t made tremendous accomplishments and strides there.

    The dissidents and non-Iraqui occupants are the ones who don’t want us there; it’s not propaganda – it’s truth that the Iraqui people are appreciative of our efforts, and have been working very diligently with the troops. But you have to understand that this is a group of people who are threatened by those who WILL harm them and those around them — it’s the terrorists there that are making it difficult for the Iraquis to take control of their country again.

    I could tell you many stories that I have heard first hand from these folks; it helps me discern between the media blitz of what we see – and what the truth is. And trust me — the people I work with — aren’t sugar coating things.

  34. auntiepatti permalink
    September 12, 2008 6:29 pm

    Thank you…very powerful. I hope people will keep sending this to all in their address book~

  35. yanksrdaclassofbball permalink
    September 12, 2008 7:35 pm

    Whatever dude. McCain is a joke. This guy is gonna be another GWB only closer to Alzheimers. Thats my prediction if he wins. And then if he cant do the job Sarah Palin!! is gonna be President?? Give me a break. Sadaam is gone, get em the hell out of Iraq. We did our job, let them stand up and walk now. They dont want us there anyway. I am not sure who will win the World Series this year, but I am sure of this…if Curt Schilling feels so strongly that McCain is the right man for the job, then I know Obama is my man!! P.S. And yes, I am a Republican

  36. truestwords permalink
    September 12, 2008 7:40 pm

    So many great comments here showing the Schill how wrong he is. Not that he’ll learn from them, as he’s only capable of admitting relatively inconsequential mistakes, admitted mainly for the sake of proving, “Look, I’m a humble guy who can admit my mistakes! Worship me more now!”

    The main point I wanted to make has been made here already, but I’d like to reiterate it, in a, no doubt, vain attempt to get through Curt’s thick skull–men having fought and lost their lives for something, sadly, does not make their cause just. Of course, you acknowledge that, in the case of those who fought for something you disagree with. It’s just that you can’t see that it’s true for any cause.

    Too bad your good buddy GW didn’t figure that out. His invasion of Iraq was wrong, but he knew that blockheads such as you would spout this illogical line of thinking–Americans fought and died–that automatically makes it right.

    It’s so very sad, yes, that family members of those who died or were maimed in this wrong-headed invasion might have to admit that the soldier’s sacrifice was for naught. Nevertheless, their loss does not suddenly make a wrong cause a right one. Curt, you are too smart not to realize this.

    Sad, too, that all the Bush supporters, such as you, didn’t join up to support the war you voted for. Might have at least made for an early end to the loss of our good men.

    Oh, right, you had a chance to make a big ole pile of money, so, OBVIOUSLY, you couldn’t go fight for your country. What a lame ass excuse. Where’s your patriotism?! Put your money where your oh-so substantial mouth is.

  37. danindelray permalink
    September 12, 2008 8:00 pm

    Defend the war?

    No problem.

    9/11 changed everything. Tolerating a dangerous dictator who had already invaded his neighbors, gave financial support to Palestinian terrorists and tried to assassinate a President was no longer an acceptable course of action.

    Saddam never allowed the inspectors unfettered access. It was a consequence of the bad neighborhood he lived in – he couldn’t afford to make an absolute declaration that he had no stockpile of WMDs and no program to produce them. He couldn’t provide the proof because it would weaken his position against Iran. Personally I found the irony delicious.

    Now lets think back to the situation prior to 9/11 and prior to the decision to overthrow Saddam’s government. The sanctions (which we now know were actually a financial boon for Saddam because of the corruption of the “Oil for Food” program) were on their last legs. The French and the Russians were showing an increasing lack of commitment. Had the sanctions been removed, and Saddam not overthrown, where would we be?

    Saddam would be comfortably ensconced in one of his palaces. He’d be pumping oil at these grossly inflated prices. In short, he would be free to pursue any folly he wanted – from resuming his WMD programs to offering such expertise to Al Queda to providing more support to Palestinian radicals. Oh, and he’d be feeding Shiites into wood chippers and dipping them into vats of acid.

    Now, having defended the rationale for removing Saddam in a world forever altered by 9-11, I cannot in any way defend the prosecution of the war. The failure to put enough boots on the ground to secure the country and the decision to disband the army were disastrous mistakes.

    However, cutting and running, as the Democratic party has argued for many years, was never ever an acceptable response to the problems in Iraq. Leaving on Obama’s schedule will be equally disastrous. And what will that disaster be? A completely destabilized country. A country on its way to being split into three pieces, potentially bringing Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia into a regional war. Turkey would be brought in when the Kurds, declaring independence from a non-functional Iraqi state, inspire Turkish Kurds to do the same. Then when Sunni and Shia really go after each other, in comes Iran to support the Shia and in comes Saudi Arabia to defend the Sunnis.

    And last but not least, I find it especially detestable how Obama argues that by supporting the way, McCain has strengthened Iran, and that’s a terrible thing. The problem with that assertion is that by working to stabilize Iraq and help it achieve some level of political reconciliation, McCain is ensuring that Iran’s influence is countered and opposed. We knew going in that Iranian influence would be increased as a natural consequence of allowing the numerically superior Shia to dominate the government.

    Obama’s intent to leave Iraq as soon as possible regardless of the consequences is the course of action that will ENSURE Iranian primacy over Iraq, because it will be the death knell of Iraq as a functional country.

  38. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 8:38 pm

    I did serve in the military but thanks for trying insult my intelligence with your ridiculous assertions.

    I did not insult him for being in the military I insulted the maker of the video’s intelligence for trying to convince people that it is disrepectful to soldiers to say that the Iraq war was misguided.

    Iraq was NOT based on faulty intel, it was based on manipulated intel by Cheney, Tenet and Rice and their staffers. The senate except for 6 members all received a specially made unclassified version of the 2002 NIE which had any ambiguities or contradicting evidence removed. So you see most members of Congress were mislead just as you and I and Curt were.

    So based on the above FACTS, and I say facts because almost the entire 2002 NIE has been declassfied, we did not defend our country by invading and defeating Iraq in 23 days.

    Here is a newsflash for you people who think Iraq was a terrorist magnet. The majority of the 100,000 people who have lost their lives in Iraq were not fighters they were people like you and me who deserved to be able to live out their lives as fathers, sons, uncles, aunts, neices, nephews, mothers, and daughters. They did not ask for us to come there and drive them from their homes by allowing terrible violence to spread accross their country.

    Saddamn used WMDs against his own people and the people of Iran. Our country GAVE him those weapons and the means to make more in the 80s so he could kill more Iranians.

    Some of you of course don’t shed a tear for Hashemites, Arabs or Persians dying. Some of you think you are better than them because you were lucky enough to be born in this country. Some of you think your lives and other Christians lives are more important than theirs.

    You can keep telling yourselves “Country First” or remember 9-11 or whatever slogan lets you sleep at night but at the end of the day invading Iraq was a crime comitted by the highest levels of our government. The propaganda surge to elect another Republican is on it would be nice if people could make their choice armed with ALL the facts and not by their emotions being manipulated by silly videos like these.

  39. grecoroman permalink
    September 12, 2008 9:25 pm


    I think I could slightly see the back of the straggly remaining mop of Karl Rove’s noggin holding the cue card that the fine soldier read from.

    I don’t criticize you nor that soldier for your beliefs and surely would never criticize neither of you for the right to express them and don’t understand why some posting here would – its foolish, please. Freedom of expression is a bedrock pillar of the health of our democracy, though I believe you both are intellectually and emotionally misguided and manipulated in your arguments.

    I fear a major problem exists relating to the subversion of freedom of expression in this country now, that truly threatens America to its core. I don’t expect people like yourself, whom are too far gone, partisan-wise and from an intellectually honest point of view to understand, nor care. I believe your addictive personality combined with your strong competitiveness, form to mold you into the perfect extreme partisan pall bearer, incapable of understanding larger, serious points outside the Republican talking propaganda ones laid neatly before your feet, like a first grader whose parents laid his clothes neatly at his feet for the start of the school day. It’s not that I expect you to necessarily agree, yet that you understand American’s larger issues, outside the Republican crafted mold.

    After researching Clear Channel, whom owns the largest number of radio stations in this country at 900, I researched and found Clear Channel Board of Directors, headquarted in Texas, whom control and steer the company, sit stacked at over 90% with partisan, extreme Bob Jones style Republicans far more extreme than yourself, I think. This becomes dangerous to our nation because many of such extreme, partisan, fascist Republicans can’t help but to potentially collude, in their name of extreme Christianity and abuse or use their power to subvert traditional, necessary freedoms of expression America’s ultimate healt depend on. I researched the placement of Clear Channels talk radio stations and found the highest percentage of conservative talk radio stations to that of their overall stations per market, exist in swing states, (what a surprise), with Iowa and NH existing the highest percentage (nearly 30%, or 1 in 3 Clear Channel owned stations in those markets existing conservative info-mercials, preaching the talking points that you so mindlessly espew as your own). The next highest market percentages, slightly below that exist Kentucky (borders Ohio), Colorado, Florida and Ohio, all around 25% or 1 in 4 stations existing Conservative Hit Radio, and not music hits. In the reddest states, where the fascist conservative gospel humms safely by extreme Christians, conservative talk stations either don’t exist or are at the lowest percentages of all states. How’s that for a coordinated effort to get the propoganda out. Take into consideration that Premiere radio whom produces all of these conservative talk radio shows, has not produced one in the same attack, smear, hate speech all wrapped up in a cutesy, likeable personality on the Liberal Side. Why not?

    In business, like in sports, success is readily, quickly and succesfully copied. Lowe’s copied Home Depot, the 46 Defense, later the 3/4 Defense, the shift on left handed power hitters, on and on, one successful business model is copied by another. So why has no radio producer mimicked the same format of the wildly Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck and other endless conservative propaganda mongerers simply flipped around. Surely, with all the lies Karl Rove and George Bush could barely contain going unchecked and free from scrutiny, the last years, I know I long for such a format. A huge market of American outrage at the Republican facism and endless unchecked lies (to the point of selling our ports to the Middle East?)exist alive and well only bursting to be tapped into. But where is the Drill ready to tap into an outrage well, that would dwarf any offshore oil reserve or Middle Eastern supply for that matter. Surely with the potential to be only the largest listened to show in America (The Left’s Rush), at least once such a proven, wildly successful format would exist, at least tried, right? Not soft “liberal radio,” but probing, investigative, critical, funny, smearing, like that of its Repulican counterparts with an endless array of 20 years of Republican fraud material to tap. Why the silence? Business generally knows only opportunity and money, not partinship or misguided religious extremism.

    Hitler was able to turn a struggling Democracy into a Dictactorship rather easily by manipulating and preying on the fears of a dying President Hindenburg, persuading him to allot Hitler special wartime powers from a planted fire staged by Hitlers Cronies, the night before, whom denounced it the work Communists, whom they happened to find matches and gasoline on a homeless looking fellow only a few blocks awy hours after the fire (sound familiar – WMD). A dying and trusting Hindenburg relented to Hitler in probably the worst decision in humankind. Hitler, fresh with new powers yielded through master manipulation quickly abused them further odering the SA or Brown Shirts to shut down and criminalize any opposing politial parties contradicting the Nazi’s. Once successful here, Hitler hired his Minister of Propoganda, Joseph Goebbels, to fill the airways throughout Germany, softly pedaling the Nazi message and virtue in likeable yet foreful personalities. Over time, German people becames so disensitized to such propoganda that the thought of concentration or labor camps truly didn’t offend them, for they came to believe that criminals and betrayers to the Cause must pay their crime. It’s hard to comprehend how a majority of humans could so easily and willingly be able to supress their better humanity under the repeated pressure and fear of a one-sided, endless, fear filled array of propoganda fed them daily for months and years, like a newborn baby to its mush. Yet it happened.

    If you don’t think Karl Rove is not a scholar and self admitted quoter and practioner of historic figures, like Napoleon and Hitler, there is much you need to learn. Karl Rove, exists a brilliant mind and student of History and I believe succeeds from many of the lessons learned from the master manipulator Hitler himself, though Rove doesn’t want genocide of course, just riches and political dominance. So many of Rove’s tactics from college to WMD, all point to Hitler master technique manipulations. Rove, like Hitler, came from a broken family, a source of embarrassment, where both witnessed the destruction and untimely death of their mothers at a young age. Both never finished college and both sought power as a means to redeem their troubled past. Enough of that though.

    In the most liberal state in the Union, MA, though bordering NH, a single state solely responsible for the first election of George Bush, one cannot find a single radio station to speak critically and honestly holding the Bush Administration accountable, not one. I yearn and yearn and yearn for some justice and accountability on the publics airways openly critical of the Bush administration for more than 10 seconds and I get none. Instead, after eight years of blatant, undeniable, fascist Nazi style governing and politics, the only talk on talk radio here as in all crictical markets, is repeated 3 to 4 hours info-mercials attacking and smearing the Democrats over and over again, Rove/Hitler, style, until such extremism, unopposed for decades, gently creats robotic intellectually dishonorable whores of human culture, unable to think for themselves beyond the propoganda gently nurturing their weaker yet stronger sides. Creating a nation of zombies, like that of Nazi Germany, succeptable to the potential will of the molester.

    When such corruptness potentially exists, our country stands in grave danger. The sort of danger President Washington feared from the beginning, where partisan trumps country, ultimately smashing the foundations of democracy. Seemingly honest men like Trent Lott recognized this when he called for the potential return of The Fairness Doctrine, to protect Americans from the prowling propoganda misinforming the public about issues, making Lott’s and Congress job harder to represent a misled, misguided sector. Making the Republican Party a shell of her former potential and service and vital role to America.

    As detailed above, the forefathers and Constitution clearly defines the need for separation of church and state for a good reason. It prevents the extremism of religion from pushing into power in the name of religion and governing upon religious extremism principles instead of American principles. David Koresh, must have been a great Christian and tremendous man of god, actually possibly god himself, to his followers. Should such a potential fine man of god, prior to his death, for example sake only, lead America? No, nor should anyone whom puts religion ahead of the respect and understanding of the separation of church and state be allowed or voted to govern. To honor the separation of church and state is to honor the founding principles of this country, to comprehend and respect the awful atrocities that led to her conception and inception (Kings, monarchy abuse of power) and to ensure the health and future of Her. To even remotely blur this line, like Sarah Paulin so proudly, ignorantly pronounced, is a further farce, insult to American Principles, and evidence of the growing extreme Republican facism so tightly engripping and threatening the core of Amercican Democracy now.

    How would Americans feel if Monday, it became learned that Democrat Harry Reid stood accused of possessing Taliban sensitive material learned through the Patriot Act, spies were able to detect. Upon searching his apartment in Washington, authorities found more Taliban contacts. As such Reid was immediately shipped to Guantanamo Bay, without legal counsel, to be legally tortured and later put to death. Do you think for one minute, such a Karl Rove/Hitler manipulative ploy, would be questioned or critiqued by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck or any of the extreme propoganda talk pieces?? Instead, you know as I do, they would use it to further demonize, smear and attack the Democrats. At what point of injustice do you think they or any of the conservative propoganda mouthpieces would not only not stop, yet even consider putting their country first?

    Probably, about the same time the German people stood up for the Genocide for a complete race of humans – that would be it ain’t happening!!!! Go team, go Republicans, right Curt??!! Put your colors on, baby, the same time you take your committment to true protection of America’s prinple clothes off.


  40. bronxerdoc permalink
    September 12, 2008 9:48 pm

    I’m a former serviceman and I understand fully the sacrifices they make and I will always appreciate what they do. But to say that we are dishonoring their memories by calling the Iraq war a mistake is an incredibly ignorant opinion. It is not the decision of the men and women in the military to go to war, it is the politicians who send them. The servicemen who died in combat deserve all the accolades we give them. But the decision to go to war was not through carefully and the planning for what was to follow was thought through even less. Our leadership is to blame.

    By President Bush’s own estimates, more than 30,000 (10 times the number who died on 9/11) innocent Iraqi people have died from our bombs. And hundreds of thousands have been left homeless or in poverty. How could you possibly say they are better off today than in 2002? Did the gentleman in this video live in Iraq before 2002? How would he know? I personally know many Iraqis who feel quite differnelty. And incidentally, more americans have died during this war than died during September 11.

    No one claims Iraq was an oasis of peace duiring Saddam’s reign, and no believes his intentions were pure and good-hearted. But we live in a world with many bad people in leadership of foreign countries. We absolutely cannot go around occupying every nation that may or may not have bad intentions toward us, without any credible evidence, massacring tens of thousands of innocent people in the process.

  41. lovethesocks permalink
    September 12, 2008 9:56 pm

    wow. what a powerful message. thanks.

    I hope the next blog concerns baseball…………..

    Wasn’t ‘Wake masterful tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  42. mainermarsh permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:07 pm

    Howdy Curt

    Have to say I am pretty torn on Iraq really. I am of the mind that we never should have gone there in the first place. It just seems like not enough thought was put into the consequences of occupying a major Arab country. I believe our presence has directly led to much of the terrorist activity currently in the country and has caused the uncessesary deaths of thousands of America’s finest.

    That being said, we did decide to invade and now we do have the responsibility of bringing order to Iraq. Even if it was a mistake to go there in the first place, it is not fair to the Iraqi people to just up and leave with terrorists creating upheaval and trying to destroy the government that has been put in place.

    In any case it is nice to see a professional athelete that actually takes the time to get informed about the issues of the world, regardless of it I may agree with your opinions or not.

  43. justaguyinthenation permalink
    September 13, 2008 6:14 am

    You are one of the reasons we all read this blog, keep up the good work!! And if you have a second (bet you do) please read the following post:

  44. johnnyb93 permalink
    September 13, 2008 6:23 am

    Curt, I respect your views on sports and baseball, but when it comes to war, you haven’t a clue. Was the sacrifice worth it? If you lost a son for a war that was sold to the American public under at least three false pretenses I doubt you would believe that. If you were one of the 100,000 dead Iraqis you definitely would not believe it.

  45. parmentier permalink
    September 13, 2008 9:07 am

    While I agree with some to the previous posts that celebrities shouldn’t be commenting on politics, everyone needs to understand that there are just as many celebrities coming out for Obama and bashing McCain. Unfortunately, the people on this blog would never be willing to bring that up. That would detract from them bashing Curt for having his opinions.
    For the record, I agree with what Curt has to say. I also believe that it is my responsibility to research the candidates myself and not blindly follow what celebrities say regardless of what the truth is.

    That’s my 2 cents for what it is worth.

  46. sox4me permalink
    September 13, 2008 11:28 am

    Whoever created the video – the message is shared by as many as do not share the message. That’s what’s so great about our country – we are free to say what we think.

    Isn’t it ironic that our men and womed fight for the freedom of people who trash them any chance they get?

    Lastly – live outside the United States and listen to God Bless the USA – think you’ll have an appreciation for it.

    I invite everybody who ‘knows’ what’s wrong with our military – join for one tour of duty – then you can comment with intellect.

  47. truestwords permalink
    September 13, 2008 2:59 pm

    Actually, sox4me, if our troops are truly fighting for our freedoms, then they will be more than happy for those freedoms to be enjoyed by their countrymen.

    Your type really don’t seem to understand what those freedoms mean. You distort any disagreement with *your* opinions as treasonous and disrespectful to the soldiers.

    I may have missed it, but I didn’t see any “trashing” of the troops here. I see well reasoned, passionate arguments as to lies told and mistakes made by our current Commander in Chief in sending these good men and women, whose lives were in his incompetent hands, into grave danger.

    You said: Lastly – live outside the United States and listen to God Bless the USA – think you’ll have an appreciation for it.

    I hesitate to take the time trying to explain it to you, because perhaps you simply aren’t capable of logical reasoning, evidenced by your lame argument about how certain people should live outside the USA and then they’ll appreciate a particular country song. It’s a perfect example of how people like you just say and believe things that don’t prove jack.

    Although I believe you are wrong in thinking that any other country in the world would be a worse place to live than the USA, even if that were true, what’s that got to do with the right and duty of US citizens to be vigilant as to what might be wrong and how we can keep our country great and make it even greater?

    I’ll *tell* you what–nothing! Typical Right wing illogical thinking there. Those who disagree with your ideas, or taste in music, just don’t understand the problems,right? Such thinking shows a ridiculous lack of understanding of so much.

    For example, if we don’t support GW’s war, your type assumes we just don’t know that there are terrorists out there who want to harm us. You can’t seem to understand the possibility that Republicans can be wrong and that other ways of dealing with terrorism, or other issues, may be better.

    Same thing with thinking people have to “join for one tour of duty” before they can comment intelligently on the military. Logical thinking will tell you that you’re wrong about that.

    As a matter of fact, those on a tour of duty may have a diminished ability to see clearly what may be wrong–they are in a position that prejudices them to believe that what they are doing is right.

    those who are laying their lives on the line are going to be predisposed to viewing their actions and those of their commanders as right. It’s a very human condition. Unfortunately, that *doesn’t* mean they *are* right or that we should make decisions based on what those under fire think.

    Surely you can understand that those on the outside may very well see more clearly how to put out a fire than those standing in the middle of it breathing in the smoke and getting burned.

  48. truestwords permalink
    September 13, 2008 3:09 pm

    I twice posted my comment regarding McCain’s blatant disrespect–well, disrespect is really too mild of a word–for our troops, as evidenced in his voting record, because I first enclosed the URL in carets, which made it disappear.

    The second time I posted it, I did it properly, as it was there in my comment as it waited for moderation. I’m certainly suspicious that it was removed to keep people from seeing the truth about McCain’s anti-soldier votes.

    If not, please put it back in my post:

  49. September 13, 2008 4:18 pm

    JustAGuyintheNation –
    LOL, why thank you… though I highly doubt I’m the reason why some of you visit this blog. 😉 I think it has a little something to do with its author… 🙂

    Anyway – there was a post you were referring to– but there was no link. Want to resubmit it?

  50. gfishbone permalink
    September 13, 2008 6:09 pm

    This soldier is entitled to his opinion, and Curt is entitled to his, but I remain unconvinced. The decision to take this country to war can be viewed as a cost-benefit analysis and, in this case, the costs in blood and treasure were greatly understated while direct benefits to the United States were grossly oversold.

    With a few more years of much-resented occupation, tens or hundreds of billions of additional taxpayer dollars, and the lives of hundreds or thousands of additional American soldiers, we might be able to shore up a democratic regime in Iraq. That’s a laudable goal, like this soldier says, but is it worth the price? Even the most optimistic projections of victory in Iraq won’t bring a lasting peace to the region, ensure our energy supply, or prevent terror attacks against the United States.

  51. redsoxrock3 permalink
    September 13, 2008 9:43 pm

    Great Job Mr. Shilling on your posting. And regarding the comment of a previous post by a gentleman in N.Y…….that you were once “were” and outstanding athlete….You are and always will be an great athlete. Even if you can never pitch another pitch again your knowledge and inspiration to others will far exceed anything he most likely has ever done.

  52. mattmcclime permalink
    September 13, 2008 10:28 pm


    You all get to vote on November 4. Stop trying to change everyone’s opinion that isn’t your own and speak with your vote. If all of you are as intellectual as you purport to be, your guy will win. If not, accept it and move on with your life.
    If you don’t agree with Schill, why do you keep coming to his site day after day after day? Seriously, do you have nothing else going on in your lives but the ’08 election? It really sounds like a lot of you have absolutely no joy in your lives. If that is the case, I really do pity you. If not, I would suggest a punching bag to let out some of your frustrations.

  53. September 14, 2008 1:36 pm

    Under our First Amendment jurisprudence the most important and respected speech is the spectrum is political speech in a public forum. What Bush has done, and McCain condones, is crippling to free speech. The entire concept of differences of policial views being treasonous or disrespectful is absolutely wrong . Trying to stiffle that discourse is what is disrespectful, unAmerican, and should never be tolerated.

    Finally, I will add that the most respectful think we as a nation can do for our men and women in uniform bring them home and respect their lives.

  54. September 14, 2008 1:49 pm

    I totally understand that Iraq is much better off than they were 5 years ago but at who’s expense? There are many more areas of the world that go through the same problems and nobody feels the need to clean those areas up. There are parts of Africa where women and children are slaughtered for no apparent reason but I don’t see ANYBODY racing there to help them. What about our country who is clearly in the need for help? If things get worse here we might eventually see mass chaos and rioting. When out citizens can’t afford to heat their homes or frankly just get to work it is time to turn our governments focus before we end up the new Iraq.

  55. joeycee permalink
    September 14, 2008 7:50 pm

    Right and the best thing to do is find an orderly, fast way to withdraw the troops from Iraq (and elsewhere), and work on solving the problems we CAN solve here. I have talked to soldiers that have the opposite view. Building socer fields ain’t progres.. the “Surge” was sending lots of soldiers to an area and paying people to stop fighting. The deficit is our biggest enemy.

  56. September 15, 2008 9:52 am

    Sorry, Curt, but I gotta disagree with you on this one — and so would my son, who saw first hand what a disaster Iraq is (and, during his time in Afghanistan, the consequences of Bush diverting resources from the real terrorists. It’s now 7+ years, and we still don’t have bin Laden: disgraceful!).

    What we do have is a record deficit, an economy on the verge of collapse unequaled since The Great Depression, no money to invest in desperately needed domestic renewable energy projects that could lessen our dependence on the Middle East, plus erosion of our civil liberties. I know your great love for the military, but I’d rather have my son’s gunner alive and raising his kids rather than 6′ under in Arlington Cemetery. Another 4 years of McBush and that absolute fraud Palin would croak us.

    Having said all that, glad you continue to speak out.

  57. win74 permalink
    September 15, 2008 1:17 pm

    My son served 15 months in Iraq, in the center of Baghdad. He witnessed things that no person should ever witness. He had a buddy shot and killed on the side of him by a sniper while on routine patrol, friends blow up with roadside bombs, suffered extreme heat and intolerable conditions that most of us can’t even imagine. He missed the birth of his first child and we all spent 15 months of anguish waiting for his safe return. Thank God he did return safely and he believes, as his family believes, that this is so important. They have made an impact and it is positive. There is positive change everyday. And as much as it scares me that he will have to go back over I do understand it. Just so you know that when he came home for his 2 weeks of leave he went to his first Red Sox game at Fenway with his wife and baby!

  58. soxfaninil permalink
    September 15, 2008 1:48 pm


    Here is something I thought was VERY interesting I received from a good friend of mine serving 15 months in Iraq.

    Please give it a read even though it is very long. Thanks, Sean in Illinois.

    (This letter was written by Charles Grennel and his comrades who are veterans of the Global War on Terror. Grennel is an Army Reservist who spent two years in Iraq and was a principal in putting together the first Iraq elections, January of 2005. It was written to Jill Edwards, a student at the University of Washington who did not want to honor Medal of Honor winner USMC Colonel Greg Boyington. Ms. Edwards and other students (and faculty) do not think those who serve in the U.S. armed services are good role models.)

    To: Edwards, Jill (student, UW)
    Subject: Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs

    Miss Edwards,

    I read of your “student activity” regarding the proposed memorial to Col.
    Greg Boyington, USMC and a Medal of Honor winner. I suspect you will receive a bellyful of angry e-mails from conservative folks like me. You may be too young to appreciate fully the sacrifices of generations of servicemen and servicewomen on whose shoulders you and your fellow students stand. I forgive you for the untutored ways of youth and your naiveté. It may be that you are, simply, a sheep. There’s no dishonor in being a sheep – – as long as you know and accept what you are.

    William J. Bennett, in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997 said: “Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident.”

    We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

    Then there are the wolves and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy. Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

    Then there are sheepdogs and I’m a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf. If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, warrior, someone who is walking the unchartered path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.

    We know that the sheep live in denial; that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids’ schools. But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid’s school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep’s only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

    The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf.
    He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours. Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn’t tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports, in camouflage fatigues, holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, “Baa.” Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

    The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them.

    This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door. Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel?

    Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter. He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle.
    The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed, right along with the young ones.

    Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, “Thank God I wasn’t on one of those planes.” The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, “Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference.” You want to be able to make a difference. There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population.

    There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of
    violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language:
    slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself. Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I’m proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

    Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When they learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd and the other passengers confronted the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers – athletes, business people and parents — from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

    “There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men.” – Edmund Burke. Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn’t have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision. If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior’s path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolves comes knocking at the door.

    This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between.

    Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. It is okay to be a sheep, but do not kick the sheep dog. Indeed, the sheep dog may just run a little harder, strive to protect a little better and be fully prepared to pay an ultimate price in battle and spirit with the sheep moving from “baa” to “thanks”.

    We do not call for gifts or freedoms beyond our lot. We just need a small pat on the head, a smile and a thank you to fill the emotional tank which is drained protecting the sheep. And when our number is called by “The Almighty”, and day retreats into night, a small prayer before the heavens just may be in order to say thanks for letting you continue to be a sheep.
    And be grateful for the thousands – -millions – – of American sheepdogs who permit you the freedom to express even bad ideas.

    Charles Grennel
    Robert Jones, MSgt(ret), USAF
    NK Sturgis, Pres N.GA Nam Knights

    Remember the price of freedom is paid with blood…pray for our troops


    COM: 910-396-6402/7402
    DSN: 236-XXXX

  59. mattmcclime permalink
    September 16, 2008 7:55 pm

    Can you point to one instance in which Bush or McCain tried to stifle free speech? I hear this all of the time, and I don’t think that anyone has ever had their right to free speech taken away. People march down the street with signs comparing Bush to Hitler… if he wanted to stifle free speech, wouldn’t he start there?
    C’mon… Just one example where Bush or anyone associated with him has done so. If you can cite just one, I will totally agree with you and concede the point.

  60. J.R. permalink
    September 18, 2008 12:29 pm

    This will be a rant; still drinking my coffee.

    On record, I’ll always support or troops as they are only doing what they are being ordered to do.

    A vote for McCain or Obama will get us nowhere. Another 4 years of the same old same that has permeated this country for the last 8 years.

    The war is Iraq is a mistake and will not end until we pull out. Like Vietnam, we are fighting a losing battle. A foreign enemy (The U.S.) meddling in the affairs of other nations as an invading force and an illegal war to boot.

    $800 Billion by the end of 2008
    Over 4000 American deaths (30,000 wounded)

    For what ? The Iraqi people ? Do people really believe this in 2008 ? This war is a war for oil and the Military Industrial Complex.

    This war on terror is another misguided idea. The radical islamists that have targeted our country and world interests hate us because we ARE THERE. They do not hate our freedom or our McDonalds and MTV. They hate us, because we have invaded their countries (Iraq, Afghanistan …) and have meddled in their affairs of which …

    The Constitution tells us is a bad idea.

    McCain will keep us there indefinitely and that includes long term bases (Think Korea, think Germany). But why ? Why do we have over 700 based around the world ? What does this have to do with defending Americans ? We can’t defend our borders from illegal entry and we surely can’t defend our country with almost half of our combat personnel overseas.

    Iraqi polls tell us THEY DON’T EVEN WANT US OVER THERE. 70 percent.

    So save the ‘doing it for the Iraqi people’ spin. We’re doing it for the oil and the MIC. I did my time in service (as did my father, brother and grandfathers) and you have two types of servicemen; those that can think for themselves and those that are so ‘hard for the guard’ they actually buy into the propaganda that is being fed to them. God bless em’ because we need people like this to serve in our Military.

    The majority of servicemen and women that actually do think for themselves will be out at the first chance they get.

    A newsbite:

    “Recently. AL-JABERI was asked how the public perceives the 104-acre, $700 million U.S. embassy in Baghdad, which consists of 27 buildings and 3,000 employees. Jaberi ripped its massive scale:

    AL-JABERI: It is certainly larger than the diplomatic mission for which it has arrived for. … I mean why do we need 3,000 employees in an embassy in Iraq if we consider it as a diplomatic mission like any other diplomatic mission? From the principle of reciprocity, would it be appropriate for Iraqis to establish a 3,000 employee embassy in Washington? … It [the embassy] certainly would not be a very positive signal to the Iraqi people.”

    and this tell tale:

    “Spencer Ackerman notes that al-Ulayyan, when asked about the invasion of Iraq, remarked: “I would prefer if it didn’t happen, because it led to the destruction of the country. The U.S. got rid of one person. It put in hundreds of persons that are worse than Saddam Hussein. Unfortunately, now Iran is going into Iraq, and this is under the umbrella of the United States.”

    Our country has become the Empire who polices the world in the interest of oil and military.

    I can’t even believe any person in thier rational mind would vote for either of these two clowns. Big government up our tails and assuming they know what is best for the American people.

    We run smack towards China, we run smack towards Iran and now we are running smack at Russia (condemning them of the same thing we are doing). Why ? Do we really think any of those countries will try an invade us ? Why do we meddle in their affairs ?

    Wake up. Vote for anything but Democrat or Republican. The two party system is a disaster. A disaster manipulated by the Main Stream Media who has long ago abdicated their responsibility to report the truth with their media blackouts.

    McCain is the ultimate neoconservative. Like Bush, he supports federal power, executive authority and more often than not leans towards the imperial style presidency.

    Aghhh. Rant over. Need more coffee.

  61. September 18, 2008 1:21 pm

    Matt, here’s one specific example. In a brief filed in federal court last year, the President stated: “The president’s right to control his own message includes the right to exclude people expressing discordant viewpoints from the audience.” The case involves two pepole who were removed from the crowd at a Bush event because they arrived in a car with an anti-war sticker on it. Similar occurrences have happened at many other Bush events, and there is generally a “free-speech” zone (note the irony in the name) at Bush events where anyone looking or appearing different or holding dissenting signs is removed. Has nothing to do with security and everything to do with stiffling dissent and limiting real free speech.

  62. 38cantpitchnemore permalink
    September 18, 2008 6:34 pm

    Hey Curt,

    Save the republican agenda speak for your millionaire cronies you associate with. Most of us are in an economic crisis. Inflation and tight budgets are things that dont affect you but do the rest of us. I am a union member with paid healthcare but still struggling to support my wife and two kids and plan for my retirement. John McCain wants to tax me for the health benefits I receive and cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans at the same time. He spits in the face of the working middle class worker. And the thought of his running mate becoming president is frightening. Lets see if the bozos who put Bush in twice are actually dumb enough to vote for 4 more years of his policies. Republicans are sending this country to hell in a handbasket. Im not saying Obama is a flawless candidate by any means, but the thought of an out of touch OLD man who wants war scares me even more

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