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Manny, JD, Papi, Lester and the NBA Finals.

June 9, 2008

Game 2 with the kids Gabby texting (not a boy btw), Gehrig watching the Celtics dancers and Dad explaining to him, well, dad things….

Manny hits 500, wow. 500 of anything means you’re good. Be it walks, hits, runs, anything, but 500 home runs, while it can be argued is not the milestone it once was, is still an incredible feat. The thing about Manny is this. Those 500 homers come with other even more impressive numbers that make his 1st ballot HOF selection a lock. His consistency year in and year out are astounding and in some cases unprecedented. I’ve said before, when you do something in a game that is more than a century old, for the first time, or only time, you’ve truly done something. Congrats to Manny and here’s to him hitting 600 here at Fenway.

Papi goes down and JD steps up. Nothing good comes from being in a hard cast. David having to be that way for a few weeks could be a season ruining event were we not as deep as we are, and were it not for guys like JD stepping up. No world championship team in any sport is ever built around 1 player and certainly not this one. Don’t mistake that for a devalue of what he means to this team, not at all. But this team and this game is always about depth and consistency. We lose 1 of the 2 best bats in the game and now we need others to step up. We don’t need one player to hit 15 homers and drive in 45 in his place. We need starters to pitch a bit better, the bullpen to pitch a bit better, someone in the lineup to do something a bit better, on each night. Each night will see one or two guys in the lineup that might not be, need to do one or two things right, or better, to makeup that difference. The main change, the bigger impact, is David’s lineup presence. No one on this team is as affected by David’s absence as Manny. The reason that’s perfect for us is that Manny NEVER allows things like that to change his approach. He’s done what he’s done, the way he’s done it, for that very reason. Manny hits and Manny approaches his AB’s in his way, every day.

Who isn’t blown away at the Jon Lester story? I know I am. I won’t belittle the off the field events, they are Hollywood in and of themselves. They are the reasons the world took notice a few weeks ago. Our advantage as his teammates was in already knowing what you all got to see. His character, his integrity, his Faith and his spirit are born of his parents and on display with him daily. From day one he was a kid that gets it. Total respect for the game, and his teammates, and a burning desire to be perfect. Having a ring side seat to the professional maturation part of this has been incredibly rewarding for me. I am by no means his mentor or anything like that, though I am comfortable in saying we have a fantastic relationship and I’d like to think I’ve helped him a bit. This has been all about Jon Lester and John Ferrel. He’s done so many things since coming to the big leagues, right and wrong, but at every turn there’s a hint of recognition on his part, that he’s learning, that his drive only increases with each bad day or game. I just think you can’t go through what he went through and not be able to put the game, your career goals and everything else into a nice little box and in better perspective, and benefit from it.

Manny vs. Youk, round 1. Trust me, this was a TOTAL non-issue and an event that happens far far more than you ever see or hear about. Many times, most times, events like this play out in clubhouses and no one outside the team ever knows about it. Bottom line is that 99 times out of 100 these are never personal, just like this one. The analogy I used was this. Most teams, most non-world championship caliber teams, have things like this crop up later in the year. For pretenders it happens in August, September, the “Dog Days”. It does so because there is an awareness or belief that games, ABs, innings are somehow more important now, and the intensity ratchets up. That’s not what happens here. Due to an organization wide commitment to winning the world series every year, and a fan base that will accept nothing less, we open the season, be it in Japan or Anaheim, and play 162 games with that approach, that intensity. Things happen when you have that level of intensity and our level of talent on a daily basis. It happens, punches might get thrown, and it ends, and we move on.

Ok, so I get some ridiculously good tickets for Game 2 of the NBA Finals last night. This was the 2nd chance to see the Celts up close. A few observations.

I had ZERO idea that the NBA game was that physical. Damn. The big boys are getting after it on every play.

Kevin Garnett, and not that this needs to be stated, but I’ll say it anyway, is as focused and locked in as any athlete in any sport I’ve been around. From pre-game shoot around to last seconds on the clock, this kid is legit. The intensity and reputation are there, wow. His eyes are on the floor, or the ball, all game. What an incredible pleasure it is to watch and be a fan of. I am blown away in that he came out of high school, something that can be a huge disadvantage, and has ALWAYS maintained who he was purported to be.

The first game I saw from these seats the Coach for Washington was basically taunting KG when he was at the line, saying a bunch of things, KG was ignoring him for the most part until he said something that must have been a bit too much, KG pauses, looks over and basically tells him to go piss up a rope.

Last night KG goes to the line, Lamar Odom (who I became a fan of last night) is saying “Hey KG why don’t you help on the ball down here?” Pointing to the paint, and I am guessing he’s referencing the fact that KG wasn’t down in the paint mixing it up. He says it again, loudly, KG doesn’t even acknowledge him, and sinks both. Impressive, total focus.

One thing I did learn was that in addition to not having one ounce of athletic ability, being white, and having no vertical, and only being able to dribble right handed, I couldn’t play in the NBA because about 43 times last night I heard things being said that would have made me swing at someone. These guys talk MAJOR trash on the floor, and the great part is that most of the times I’ve seen it the guy on the receiving end usually doesn’t respond much, if at all, and just plays the game, schooling the guy who feels like he needs to talk to make his game better.

Paul Pierce is friggin good. What a game. Who on the Lakers can defend him?

I always wondered about the bitching and moaning of NBA coaches and players with regards to officiating and last night I was literally on the floor to see and hear it first hand. Things I heard and saw.

1) KGs first quarter Technical. I heard EVERY word of his exchange with the ref. It’s nice to know that they share the same problems some players do with MLB umpires. He was giving a technical because he said the F word, period. He did NOT call the ref a name, he was bitching about a non-call and said “C’mon, what the F am I supposed to do” and got the T. Now I watch both Pierce, and I think Allen, talking to this ref and he shoots back to Paul this little tidbit. “I can’t let him talk to me that way.”

What? Dude, your an NBA official, not the stinking Pope. Not one person in the arena paid 1 cent of their ticket to see you, ref the game and shut your pie hole. These guys are playing for a world championship, they are as amped up as you expect the best players in the world to be, they are grown men, there’s going to be some PG-13 language, and you are giving a T to a guy for dropping an F bomb? Stupid.

2) Every SINGLE play up and down the floor has MULTIPLE fouls being committed by multiple players. These guys are in close, every play. They are beating the crap out of each other, and the refs see it. That makes me think that the game is called and paced exactly how the refs want it to be. I wondered aloud, a few times, how in the hell calls weren’t being made against the Celts on a ton of plays in the paint where there was some serious pugilism being committed. There were a ton of ‘non-calls’ in my incredibly amateur opinion.

3) Phil Jackson knew it. Early in the game, Farmar comes to the bench during Celts free throws and asks about the next series, Jackson says “One thing I do know is we’ve got to stop !@#$&@#%$#&*()@ fouling these guys” Farmar asks what he says and he repeats the line.

4) I don’t know much about the NBA beyond some of the star players and the famous teams. I heard that the Lakers got Gasol in a horrible steal of a deal and that the league should have investigated the trade for some sort of punishable crime :) I saw a 7 footer last night who grabbed like 4 rebounds and spent the entire game whining about getting fouled.

5) Kobe. This one stunned me a little bit. Who doesn’t know Kobe Bryant right? I only know what I have heard, starting awhile back with the entire Shaq debacle. I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other on or about him other than to know that people feel he might be one of the 4-5 greatest players to ever lace it up. What I do know is what I got to see up close and hear, was unexpected. From the first tip until about 4 minutes left in the game I saw and heard this guy bitch at his teammates. Every TO he came to the bench pissed, and a few of them he went to other guys and yelled about something they weren’t doing, or something they did wrong. No dialog about “hey let’s go, let’s get after it” or whatever. He spent the better part of 3.5 quarters pissed off and ranting at the non-execution or lack of, of his team. Then when they made what almost was a historic run in the 4th, during a TO, he got down on the floor and basically said ‘Let’s f’ing go, right now, right here” or something to that affect. I am not making this observation in a good or bad way, I have no idea how the guys in the NBA play or do things like this, but I thought it was a fascinating bit of insight for me to watch someone in another sport who is in the position of a team leader and how he interacted with his team and teammates. Watching the other 11 guys, every time out it was high fives and “Hey nice work, let’s get after it” or something to that affect. He walked off the floor, obligatory skin contact on the high five, and sat on the bench stone faced or pissed off, the whole game. Just weird to see another sport and how it all works. I would assume that’s his style and how he plays and what works for him because when I saw the leader board for scoring in the post season his name sat up top at 31+ a game, can’t argue with that. But as a fan I was watching the whole thing, Kobe, his teammates and then the after effects of conversations. He’d yell at someone, make a point, or send a message, turn and walk away, and more than once the person on the other end would roll eyes or give a ‘whatever dude’ look.

Let me reiterate that this is from a complete basketball newbie, so for all I know this could be exactly how these guys play this game and interact with each other.

The contrast though, for me anyway, was watching KG and Allen, Pierce, as the game went on. I was literally ON the Laker bench so I could only watch the celts on the floor, and it was just different. it was all about who has whom, who goes where, what’s up next. That could have been a direct result of the officiating and flow of the game though, more than anything.

It was just amazing to watch a game where the Lakers came out, completely set the tempo in the first few minutes and TOTALLY dominated the final four minutes, and in between the Celtics completely dominated them.

Anyway, what a rush and a total enjoyment to be a part of. Celtic fans were damn impressive. Oh and one more thing. I think it’s fantastic that there seems to be this mutual support thing going on here in NE. You fans are being treated to your third World Championship appearance since last October and that’s awesome. But at each one there seems to be a crossover, Celts and Sox at the Super Bowl, Pats, Bruins and Celts at the World Series, and last night Sox and Pats all over the place. Cool stuff.

180 Comments leave one →
  1. June 13, 2008 8:33 am

    *edit my last entry:

    The famous red SOCK alone will get him in..

  2. bosox4eva permalink
    June 13, 2008 8:50 am

    How many rings has kobe won without Shaq? 0. How many rings will kobe get without Shaq? 0. How many times has Shonda had to stand next to a SCUMBAG of a human being and watch him defend himself in a court of law for a felony rape charge? 0. You people who defend this idiot are about as low class as kobe and MANessa. Which is pretty hard to beat. The only other names that come to mind are O.J. and Tyson. The only reason LA Fans are bitching about this blog, is because Schill is RIGHT. Curt, you keep on doing what you do best. Sitting people down whether it’s on the field or with your mouth. Just remember LA OJ was a legend. How’d that one work out for ya?

  3. soxgotrings permalink
    June 13, 2008 10:04 am

    Manny thinks he’s great?!! What about A-Rod? At least the Sox can do the job in the post season. 3-1…I don’t think the Lakers can win in six now…hope they can pull off winning all three of the remaining games in the series (<—sarcasm). So many sour grapes leaving comments here. Stop taking your frustrations out on Curt because your teams SUCK! The Yankees suck, again…the Lakers are good, but not good enough to beat the Celtics this year. Paul Pierce shut down Lebron and now he’s shutting down Kobe. We all know who the real MVP should have been now and he’s prooving it in the post season. Why don’t you frustrated Yankee fans stop giving Curt a hard time because he’s gotten the better of your team in the past…GO PUT GIAMBI”S GOLD THONG IN IT!

    Go Sox! Go Celtics!!

  4. rutkiller permalink
    June 13, 2008 10:38 am

    Are you frickin’ kidding me? You have the audacity to call-out Kobe Bryant like this, when you are one of the biggest sour-pusses in baseball?

    Curt, do you remember what happened in May, 2003? Yeah, you took a baseball bat to a QuesTec camera. Is that how a person “in the position of a team leader” should act? Would it have been better if Kobe physically attacked a NBA referee with a baseball bat? Your leadership qualities, or lack thereof, aren’t exactly top-notch either. Before calling out a fellow professional athlete like this, perhaps you should clean up your own image first.

    You’re unbelieveable. Really.

  5. rutkiller permalink
    June 13, 2008 10:39 am

    Oh, and by the way, stop wearing that Celtics jersey. You look ridiculous.

  6. iiikdubiii permalink
    June 13, 2008 11:36 am

    …about Kobe’s leadership. Will he ever be able to lead a team if he cannot maintain his composure? From what Schil said about Kobe’s “bench talk”, Kobe’s frustration yell at Odom for not coming up to cover on a 3pt shot (did you guys see that), and his AWFUL post game interview, how can anyone want to follow him….and this is coming from a closet Kobe fan. Ok, so a “canned” response to all the questions he received probably would have been boring and the same as anyone else, but the non-effect those comments would have made would be better than the whiny/complaining lack of sense he just coughed up.


  7. fffernan permalink
    June 13, 2008 11:38 am

    Curt you fail to mention the Revolution Championship game. It was a nice drive drive down, bad drive back for me and my fellow new englanders that day. The last year in sports has been rediculous. 4 out of 5 teams make it to the championship game, and the Bruins & Canadiens series was more entertaining than any of the other hockey series.

    P.S. to all you soccer haters the Revolution average 12k fans a game, which is right up there with most pro basketball and hockey teams.

  8. gm272 permalink
    June 13, 2008 11:46 am

    curt, let me ask you something: where was your celtics jersey last year – or the year before that? I’m guessing that as soon as the red sox have a couple of losing seasons, there will be no such thing as a “red sox nation.”
    I ask, are you a celtics fan? Were you a celtics fan last year? If not, why? Maybe because they sucked?
    You’re all a bunch of front runners. You make me sick.

  9. fr1j0l3 permalink
    June 13, 2008 11:58 am


    You go curt!

    Your opinions are your own, f, the rest of the haters.

    And where are all the laker-fans now? Cmon, I thought Kobe could guard Paul?



  10. billygriffin permalink
    June 13, 2008 1:32 pm

    Curt Schilling is a bigot!!!
    Ask any of the Black Red Sox players who are not on the team now….and who are not recieving any Red Sox royalites.
    This right wing Bush-Republican has a problem with Black Super Stars.
    it’s cool when they are quiet subservients or a third of an interchangeble trio.
    But when they are a Black world wide star standing alone, handsome, articulate, speaks three languages and sexy…they are a threat.
    Typical jealous bigots like Schilling are going to do what every right wing white guy over 40 does…..
    create or join a band wagon that tries to destroy the perception that young Anglo Saxon white boys and girls have of a black icon like Kobe Bryant.
    A typical and highly expected move Schilling!!
    Who was Kobe really chastizing Curt ??
    Sasha V., Walton or Radmonovich??
    ‘Cause we all know you don’t really care how he talks to Fisher, Turiaf, Ariza and Odom.
    It’s all about him schooling the white players.
    Isn’t that right Curt???
    But before these white players played with Kobe…what were they doing??
    Dying somewhere with less the average NBA talent.
    They certainly wern’t a part of any championship crew???
    Certainly Phil Jackson could tell Kobe to back off.
    I wonder why he hasn’t done it in the finals???
    I bet You probably wrote this blog because either your wife, sexy blonde next door neighbor or one of your daughters thinks Kobe is cute and heroic.

  11. jwnct permalink
    June 13, 2008 5:11 pm

    “You fans are being treated to your third World Championship appearance since last October and that’s awesome. But at each one there seems to be a crossover, Celts and Sox at the Super Bowl, Pats, Bruins and Celts at the World Series, and last night Sox and Pats all over the place. Cool stuff” (quote from the blog).

    I agree that the Boston area is blessed with championship teams at the professional ranks. But, lets add to that the success of local colleges as well. Boston College Men’s Hockey wins the Hockey NCAA. Harvard Women’s Hockey team wins their conference, makes it to the semis of the Frozen Four and loses only two games all year. I am sure there are other National Championships that I don’t know of. The point, Boston is awesome and full of quality athletes and championship teams.

  12. June 13, 2008 5:22 pm

    btw … FYI

    If the Celtics go on to win the 2007-2008 NBA Championship, as they are now poised to do, leading 3-1 in this series … the ‘Series Calls’ (re: Winners & Losers) I’ve made, in advance, during this post-season, will stand at 12-1 (92.3%) … which is superior to any other NBA Analyst I’m aware of who has published his/her selections this year.

    As the old saying goes,

    “The proof of the pudding is in the eating.”


    Enjoy your weekend all! :-)

  13. sdl1 permalink
    June 13, 2008 11:52 pm

    What Hath ESPN Wrought?

    Looks like some nuthouse has let their residents have access to the ‘Net.

    billygriffin…you sound a lot like a certain jackass Knick fan who was wearing Yankee gear at The Staples Center (another reason I use Office Depot, Staples price-gouges you). Oh, and your movies suck too, Spike. I now expect ol’ Peanut Head Spike to proclaim Curt a racist for also a.) being white and b.) wearing a Larry Bird jersey.

    To all you Kobe ass-kissers out there. You do realize he demanded that the Lakers get rid of Shaq and Phil Jackson..and he wasn’t happy that Phil came back. Sure, Kobe himself wanted to be traded, but the bottom line is..nobody wanted him.

    Curt..what these new clowns who migrated here via ESPN don’t realize is that this is YOUR blog. YOU can say whatever you want and they should be lucky that you’ve posted their blatherings. Actually, I’m glad you have. Just shows how moronic they are.m and they are good for a laugh.

    “Go Yankees”? That the best you can do, Kobe? Hey, how ARE the Yankees doing Kobe? And that question is for you as well, Spike.


  14. thedoctorx permalink
    June 14, 2008 4:59 am

    Seems to be a lot of unhappy people posting emotional opinions–some in t3h ALLCAPS!!!11!!–denouncing you for . . . posting your opinions, some emotional, some critical.

    Meanwhile . . . a billion Chinese do not care.


  15. bosox4eva permalink
    June 14, 2008 10:27 am

    Billy Griffin
    What a sad world your children must have. KOBE BRYANT an ICON? Well, then I guess Tyson and Simpson are ICONS too. You are a complete idiot. I am so sick of dumbass people like yourself trying to play the race card. Kobe is NOTHING without SHAQ. Anybody, that has half a brain knows that. If you want your kids too look up to a pro athlete , why don’t you point out Tiger Woods, LeBron James, Frank Thomas, David Ortiz. Those are real Men. Kobe will always be a great basketball player, but he’s the father of 2 daughters now. How would he like it if a scumbag like himself was around his 2 girls. Would it be ok as long as he was a future HOF? As for Schill being racist. That is a joke. Hey, but I guess it’s better then being an accused RAPIST.

  16. soxgotrings permalink
    June 14, 2008 12:00 pm

    @ GM272 & eighteenandone
    Wow, now people are going to start with the whole bandwagon business…
    Please…this happens when any team becomes successful, not just Boston teams…
    And the other guy who actually played the race card (it was only a matter of time before someone did it)…give the world a break PLEASE! Just because somebody says something bad about someone who happens to be a different race doesnt mean their intentions are bigotry. Racism is fueled and perpetuated by people like you saying BS like that…it’s so stupid. SOUR GRAPES!

  17. redsoxreallysuck permalink
    June 14, 2008 12:19 pm

    Curt–you lead the league in guys who should shut their pie holes. Go Kobe.

  18. made4ever permalink
    June 14, 2008 12:42 pm

    Curt Schilling,

    Cool blog about the NBA Finals. In my opinion, you are right on mark about Kobe’s attitude, and lack of leadership. He might appear happy and very cordial with his teammates when the Lakers are winning. However, when the Lakers are losing Kobe’s true character appears. The Lakers stunk last year, and before this season started Kobe was going on and on about his desire to be traded. I will admit that he is arguably one of the best, if not the best, player in the NBA right now. Unfortunately for him, talent and skill will only get him so far in life.

  19. teacupsmommy permalink
    June 14, 2008 8:50 pm

    Hi Curt,

    How’s life? I wanted to say thanks. I am an outpatient at Lahey Clinic in Burlington. I’m epileptic and spend alot of time visiting my neurologist there. I saw the sign designating the Curt and Shondra Schilling ALS Center. My friend Robin took me to the doctor and pointed it out. My friend Jill’s brother was diagnosed with ALS and only survived five months after the diagnosis. Also, I see that you are rehabbing and I wanted to encourage you to keep going. 17 years ago I had my knee caps realigned and it took me eighteen months to walk again. I had to relearn it. But I wanted to encourage you and tell you keep trying and going. I know from experience that Rehab is hard but you can do it. I sat down and listed the benefits of having the surgery versus not and went after it. It helped me to focus on the end result which was not being in pain. Be well.

    Teacups mommy

  20. sdl1 permalink
    June 15, 2008 5:36 am

    I neglected to add my thoughts about the term “bandwagon.”

    I’m 51 and as a native Bostonian (living in Hell–oops St. Pete), I can tell you that even when teams like the Pats and Celts sucked, the fans still came…even selling the venues out. I REFUSE to jump to the Bucs/Rays/Lightning/Magic bandwagon like I’m supposed to down here. Unlike what this jerk named Steve Duemig says, I do NOT subscribe to the theory that you have to root for where you live and you have to cut your ties to where you are from.

    What is with with “the beautiful people” in LA leaving early (except for Jack, I give him credit for being a real fan)???? Real fine example they set, right?

    So, is ol’ Peanut Head now a Laker fan? Hey Spike…I remember when you tried to stop a certain cable channel frim changing their name. One of my cats is also named “Spike”. Want to sue him too, you jackass?

    I wonder if ol’ Spike thinks his Knicks are racist because they fired Isiah the A-Hole.

    Go Sox! Go Celts!

    (Spike..the Knicks SUCK!)

  21. sycle permalink
    June 15, 2008 8:33 pm

    Please leave The Instance alone. You pretty much ruin the show.

  22. rw643 permalink
    June 18, 2008 10:14 pm

    its amazing what someone does once they win a couple of world series. a person like you walks around like theyre the greatest player who ever lived. You did win some titles but, you have the big unit and the red sox offense to thank. you have no right getting on kobe like this, and letting this go public. when i heard this, it really made me think that you are the kind of guy that people would appriciate more if you didnt talk so much. good luck this year, i look forward to what you have to say next to make other people look bad.

  23. thedoctorx permalink
    June 21, 2008 2:23 pm

    It appears you were absolutely correct about Kobe.

    rw643 At least he won and attended the game. What did you do?


  24. new2boston2006 permalink
    June 25, 2008 8:57 am

    At first I disagreed with Curt. Kobe should be allowed to lean his team as he sees fit. The results will show in the team’s performance. But now I must disagree. Kobe should show more leadership like Manny and punch his teammate if he disagrees with their attitude or performance.

    Sorry Curt to disagree with you.

  25. June 25, 2008 6:22 pm

    Curt’s observations about Kobe were right on the money!

  26. irishmom91562 permalink
    July 1, 2008 10:34 am

    Wow, there are so many MORONS out there, no wonder Obama has so many supporters. Dummies. Here’s a reality check, folks:

    * Kobe Bryant is a low life and living proof that you can take the boy “out the hood (whether he grew up there or not, he still gots it in his blood)” but you can’t get the “hood out the boy.” It’s Bryant’s wife Vanessa (representing for Watts) who unleashed a tirade of expletives at a female reporter for having the audacity to write the truth, right in front of her daughters. Kobe choked in the playoffs and the Lakers fans need to eat crow.

    *The majority of problems out West are brought about by Mexicans, legal or not. Instead of denying fact, check prison stats. Then use your time productively by calling upon leaders of minority communities to curb the negative tendencies of those with a criminal agenda that victimize the decent people.

    *”Frustrated New Yorkers” ? LOL. We have the honor of living in the GREATEST Metropolitan area in the world, where every trend is set, and RIGHT is defined. Not a thing to be frustrated about, just thankful.

    *The person who said that these lowlifes who dog on Schilling for telling it like it is, should get jobs. Hey, why not call Obama and see if his campaign is hiring ? He needs all the token whites he can get.

    Wake UP, people!

  27. eviltwin436 permalink
    September 19, 2008 11:53 am

    Curt, you know what’s funny to me, is that you seem to have grown a pair now that Manny is in LA, I mean where were the comments when he was in Bean Town. When he would do off the wall things it plain Manny being Manny, now your spewing venom.

    Hey Curt just shut up and fade away.

  28. gemini99 permalink
    October 7, 2008 4:29 pm

    hey IRISHMOM don’t forget to get out the KLAN vote, you racist s-c-h-m-u-c-k

  29. Gurv permalink
    February 9, 2009 5:53 pm

    You are famous and wealthy for having the ability to throw a ball accurately!!!! Thats It!!!! Not for your intellect or opinions. I imagine you led a life with out sin and mistakes? Since you are human, i would giess thats not the case. All your critisisms of your fellow major league players will catch up with you. For you are not with out sin.

  30. Isaiah permalink
    September 2, 2009 4:53 pm

    Stick to baseball and video games Schill! There is no place for you in politics in this town. Take your rightwing political views and stick em’ where the sun don’t shine!

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