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November 2, 2007

Things continue to move along. I spoke with a St. Louis ESPN affiliate today. Still a very passionate fan base out there and it was pretty cool of them to act as excited as they did about the potential of playing there.

I also wanted to mention something else. For anyone interested please just assume things are happening with Boston without me mentioning it. Theo and I have spoken more than once but there will be no details or updates of these discussions. I am in contact with the Sox and talking.

Received a call from another of the teams on our list yesterday and played phone tag with 2 teams that had made prior inquiries as well.

Funny how things shake out. Shonda is always trying to get me to ‘clean up’, as I’m a collector. I hate throwing things away. Found a stack of papers yesterday, that I didn’t even look at until this morning, and in the stack was all of my notes and documents from the winter of 2003 negotiations with the Sox. I will talk to Theo at some point soon and if he and Mr Lucchino are ok with it I will post the letter the Sox sent to me, ahead of their visit. I think it’s incredibly insightful to the front office and how they approach dealing with players. It’s certainly different than most other teams I’ve played with.

44 Comments leave one →
  1. zinhead permalink
    November 2, 2007 8:48 am

    Hi Curt. Congratulations on yet another terrific year and win. Those of us who live in Kennett Square were rooting for ya! As a life long Phillies fan we’d love to have you back home here in Philly. It would be great to have your level of gamesmanship and class in the Phils dugout. I hope to see you at the park in South Philly in April 08. Best always and see you at the Half Moon for a beer. Its on me!

  2. mannyramirez1 permalink
    November 2, 2007 9:06 am

    Glad to hear that the Red Sox are talking. As far as cleaning up, that’s fine, just no packing up!

    If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a million time …. Curt, stay with us.

  3. Tom Field permalink
    November 2, 2007 9:14 am

    Thanks for the update, Curt. I find myself thinking a lot this week, ‘Hey, the Red Sox really did win the World Series, didn’t they?’

    Does it catch you by surprise occasionally, too? That’s it’s over & done?

    Question for you: We all know how you said you were coming to Boston to help break an 86-year-old curse, and you did it. You met your own expectations. But what about the whole Boston experience has *surprised* you — been either below or above your initial expectations?

    Just curious …

    By the way, SI arrived yesterday, and my six-year-old made me sit down and read him the whole Series coverage. Nice that he was interested, and it sure beat the hell out of reading another Pokemon adventure!



  4. jkey permalink
    November 2, 2007 9:22 am

    Even though the Sox are your first choice, are you interested enough in finding out what kind of offers you would get from other teams that you would hold off signing an acceptable offer from Boston until after their exclusive rights expire and the other guys can talk money?

    Was it as much fun hearing from Ed Wade as it seems like it would have been?

  5. November 2, 2007 9:47 am

    you’re killing us with all this other team talk Schill…

    no one wants to see you go. And if you do – it will be hard for us

    Theo’s a moron if he doesn’t sign you for one more year. You need to retire here in Boston.. you’ve made yourself a legend here in Boston, if you leave you will have broken the hearts of millions.. and then Theo will have to deal with the rath of us.

  6. phillysports permalink
    November 2, 2007 9:50 am

    Wow, seeing those letters would be awesome, but part of me knows that they probably won’t let you share them.

    Good luck, and Philadelphia misses you 😀

  7. bsoxfan4life permalink
    November 2, 2007 9:55 am

    I really hope to see you back in a Red Sox uniform come spring training, hope the talks are going well with Theo and Sox Front Office, good luck on your talks with all parties interested in your services. Also, that would be cool if you could post up what the sox were saying in 2003. Anyways, this is one sox fan who hopes to see # 38 retire in Boston, Thx for everything, from pitching to ALS work.

    Boston, MA

  8. mondoray permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:02 am

    Stuff to think about…
    Since you are a resident of Massachusetts…
    When does Teddy Kennedy’s term end?
    Shouldn’t you consider another career in Politics?
    Maybe a continuation with the Sox (probably at a very groveling contract) would keep you here, in the Public Eye, so you can run as a Republican Senator from the State?
    You helped save the Sox – NOW help save the Commonwealth.

  9. apgjr17 permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:06 am

    THEY BETTER SIGN YOU!!!!!!!!!! Forget Philly, or an national league team!! You know as well as i do that the American League is the place to be!! National teams have no chance against the American league. We are too Strong!! 1 Boston, 2 Clevland 3 Angels 4 i hate to say it,Yankees.. otherwise if you pick any teams in the national league,it will be an early October..

  10. yoyogosoxgo permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:08 am

    We love you Schill. Thank you for being a huge part of bringing two World Championships to Boston. But what do you think the chances are that you’ll be back? As much as I’d love to see it happen I don’t think it will. There has got to be a team out there that will pay you more than the Red Sox will. I think it’s about the $$$ for you right now otherwise why not just go out on top? Do you really want to go have an average season with a team that isn’t going to win the World Series?

  11. lyricaloflowell permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:09 am

    Curt, they aren’t going to let you post that as they wont want other teams to catch wind of their negotiation tactics, as it may drive up prices of players, or loose players all together. Teams could do all sorts of things with that kind of info, even though informally they might know some of the practices. Once it is in print like that though, other teams and players would know how to approach the sox, and then it would ultimately change the way the sox do business anyway. However, I would love to see it!

  12. November 2, 2007 10:12 am

    Sounds good. $13 million for a year seems like a no-brainer, but that must be why I’m here and not in those meetings. While you’re in there, see what you can do about picking up Manny’s options.

  13. brianfer permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:18 am

    Thanks for your service with the BoSox. Although, you only hear from the fringe members of redsox nation there are many of us who appreciate what you did. Best of luck to you, wherever you end up.

  14. trot7 permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:19 am

    Well, lets hope the talks with the Sox turn out well. You don’t want that random extra year somewhere on your Hall of Fame plaque.

    What are your thoughts on the influence that Florida making Cabrera available will have on the AROD\ Mike Lowell off season?

  15. pleasestaycurt permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:24 am

    Please Don’t Go Curt!!!!

  16. eamodsdotcom permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:27 am

    I just wanted to mention that I appreciate you sharing with us the off season stuff. For example, how many of use JUST found out that a player can file for free agency by using the phone and stating so. Great stuff.

    BTW, check it out- Your face in a game. At you can see “modders” that have changed or updated your face over the years since the game MVP BASEBALL 2005 was first released.

    Heck, I wonder if you even read the comments.

  17. redsoxcubbies permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:31 am

    G’day Curt —
    I’d love to see the letter from Theo & Co., as I am certain it details the vision they had in bringing you on board. Vision accomplished!

    I give you great kudos, Curt, for remaining at the top of your field, but also being fiercely loyal to your family, and never wavering in your faith.

    I once saw Spike Lee, whom I admire as a filmmaker, speak and say that he never could have gotten where he is now if he were married b/c the risks would have been too great. I wholly disagree with his line of thinking that you cannot climb a mountaintop in your profession without having a wonderful family unit as a foundation.

    So thanks for being that example…and inspiring many others to do the same.

    Cheers, God Bless, and I’ll see you at the mountaintop!

    Corey W.

  18. codycamp permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:38 am

    Mr. Schilling,
    As a life long Cubs fan, a fan of yours [even when you were in Philly (shakes fist)] and someone who truly loves the game I have to say with all honesty I think you should stick with Boston. That team they built up has the potential to go to the World Series again and as much as I’d like to see you pitch at Wrigley I’d rather see you pitch again in a World Series.
    I know I’m just a sidenote and your decision has a lot more important factors, but I figure my two cents wouldn’t hurt much.
    Oh and a side note, I’m sure a lot of people have mentioned this, but the bloody sock thing, that totally reminded me of when Nolan Ryan took a line drive off his lip and continued pitching, blood stained jersey and all. Sorry just thought that was kind of cool.
    Cody Camp

  19. docx43 permalink
    November 2, 2007 10:49 am

    Hey Curt! Congrats on a great year! I wanted to let you know that there is a group “Re-sign Curt Schilling and Mike Lowell!” formed by fans. Take a look.

  20. November 2, 2007 10:58 am

    Your comment that you just looked at some of your papers today and “found” the letter the Red Sox sent you. It’s so instructive as to how different it is to be a fan and a player – most of us would have had something like that framed and hanging on our walls. I’ve got a few things here and there of interest, but nothing even close.

    Then again, I don’t have anything from my employer hanging on my wall either. 🙂

    I fully believe it is in the Sox’ interest to have you back next year. You’re the prototypical example of what I have heard this team say they’re looking to build. I hope you and the team can work something out and that we’ll be seeing you next year.

    Best wishes.

  21. jimc1954 permalink
    November 2, 2007 11:18 am

    Dear Mr. Schilling,
    As a first time blogger(?) I just wanted to thank you for your obvious contributions to the 2004 and 2007 Red Sox teams. I am a native of Bar Harbor, Maine but have lived in AZ since 1981 (I hate the cold). I was here when the D-backs pulled out game 7 and, like many local fans, was sad to see you leave. On the other hand you went to a team I have been in love with since the “Impossible Dream/Year of Yastrzemski” (1967). My Mom passed away over a year ago from breast cancer and I know one of the happiest moments of her final years was you helping the team break the curse. I thank you for that and I thank you for giving my Dad, who remains deeply saddened since Mom’s passing, a happy moment or two this year as the Red Sox pushed towards another title.
    Jim Cooper

  22. soxmeister permalink
    November 2, 2007 11:41 am

    Curt, you can’t put a new contract price on the past, but if you could I would hope you would get A-Rod money … 86 years of curse broken by your choice to come to Boston. I am miffed that certain Globe reporters bash you like you are some criminal … you may be outspoken, but then so are they, and they have never pitched a win in the World Series before. I hope you can work out some contract to stay with the Sox, it would be hard to see you in a different uniform. Good luck to you and thanks for coming to Boston in ’04.

  23. morineko permalink
    November 2, 2007 12:00 pm

    I thought I was the only one who left paper clutter that long (in a relatively well-organized house.) Nothing like finding the info on the 2002 benefit plan from work. While looking for the manual for my Dreamcast. I still haven’t found the manual.

  24. November 2, 2007 12:13 pm

    STAY IN BOSTON CURT!!!!!!!!!!!





    PLEASE STAY!!!!!!!!!!

  25. newmedic permalink
    November 2, 2007 4:06 pm

    Dear Mr Schilling

    I would like to thank you and your family for all that you have done for us in Boston. We in Sox’s nation would love to see you finish your last years out here in Boston. I know that Boston is most likey the hardest city to play ball in due to the fan’s that know everything…lol. But that the beauty and passion that we have for all of are sports here. We here in New England and Sox’s Nation will never forget what you help bring back to us after 86 year’s. May God look over you and your famliy where ever you go.

    Thank You

  26. signcurtandlowell permalink
    November 2, 2007 7:50 pm

    hey Curt.
    Cam from Sturbridge, Mass here. I don’t think I mentioned my name last comment I left. It’s a funny thing. I really enjoy how you keep us posted on how offseason things are going, like we’re all part of your family. Yet it sort of saddens me seeing that you are indeed in contact with other teams. All I”m hoping is that you relive all the breathtaking moments you’ve had in a Red Sox uniform, and that you and the Boston front office work out a sufficient deal to bring you back to Fenway for another year.
    I was talking to my neighbor today, and he’s a Braves fan, because he grew up in Atlanta. He tried to compare the atmosphere of Turner Field and the fanbase in Atlanta to Fenway Park and Boston. I laughed inside. I don’t see how Fenway and Red Sox Nation can be compared to anywhere else in the country. Boston is one of a kind, and I don’t see you leaving that for some other everyday baseball city any time soon.

    This is totally off topic, Mr Schilling. My apologies. But can you believe Alex Rodriguez? The man refuses to negotiate with the New York Yankees unless the offer him a minimum of 350 million dollars. MINIMUM. Is this man correct in the head? I mean seriously. Im perfectly happy with 70,000 dollars a year. It baffles me to see why some of my fellow Red Sox fans would want to see him in a Red Sox uniform. Sure, he puts up monster numbers, and I completely respect that. The part I don’t respect is how he plays only for himself. As Ive heard, he’s never been a clubhouse guy, and doesn’t seem to make friends with all of his teammates. Why want the highest paid player in the Majors on your team when he is not respected in the clubhouse and on the diamond? As you can see, I want no one but Mike Lowell manning the hot corner in 2008 and beyond.

    Sorry for the long response, but that had to get off my chest. Thanks again Curt for your magical years in Boston, and I hope game two of the World Series was not your last pitched game as a Red Sock in the Fens. We all love you to death Curt, and Red Sox Nation wants you back in Boston for 2008!!

  27. bigdaddyjoeleo permalink
    November 2, 2007 8:13 pm

    Hey Curt,

    It would be a dream come true to see you wear the birds on the bat at least once in your great career. We would love to have you.

  28. cardsguy1966 permalink
    November 3, 2007 7:18 am


    It’s Saturday morning, November 3rd at 7:17 a.m. I should be in bed, as I just got home from work not too long ago. But honestly, I can’t sleep until I type this letter to you. Just the possibility of you coming to St. Louis and pitching for the Cardinals is worth the loss of a few hours of sleep to me.

    I wish I knew the right thing to say to get you to come to St. Louis. I’m not very eloquent, but here goes.

    “St. Louis needs you.”

    There, plain and simple. I know your heart is probably in Boston, as it should be, but St. Louis is a fantastic baseball town!! It is a great place to play. Tony LaRussa is a terrific manager who has the heart of a winner. Winning games is all he wants to do, and he will do anything to accomplish that. You would be playing in front of sold-out crowds who are extremely passionate and knowledgeable about this game. If you came, you would be so respected in this city, and would add so much to the rich history of Cardinals baseball.

    I don’t mean to ramble on about this, but being a die-hard Cardinals fan for my entire life, I know all of this to be true.

    Our slogan is “Welcome to Baseball Heaven,” and despite our problems last year (and every team goes through some off-years), it really is a terrific place to play. Thanks for considering our team, Curt. We really do need you, and you won’t be sorry if you give us a chance.


  29. countryrentals permalink
    November 3, 2007 9:31 am

    Curt (bloody sock) Schilling,

    You have created something very special in Boston. I just don’t understand why you would even care how much the red sox pay you?? You are extremely wealthy and you will get more endorsements in Boston then anywhere else. You are a legend here! I know its a business, but maybe just once a professional athlete will look at baseball as a game. If you put a statement out there saying i want to play for Boston and no one else you would be starting a new trend, kinda like the patriots. I know management is waiting because you didn’t come in your usual great shape this year in spring training. Also you are a great postion, meaning Boston fans are begging for you to play another year. You should use that leverage to get ALS involved. Maybe if a certain amount of money is raised you will play for the Red Sox. Just an idea. Another silly question, people are saying that you put a clause in your contract saying once the world series in over you have 30 or 60 days to sell your house if it doesn’t sell the red sox have to buy it, is this true? Thanks a lot Curt for the two world series and hopefully i didn’t upset you! Thanks steve and the guys from country rentals in hanson ma.

  30. elbirdo permalink
    November 3, 2007 10:03 am

    Wanted you to know that we would love to have you in a Cardinal uniform. I hope my Cards give you due diligence in negotiations in acquiring your services, your enthusiasm, and your leadership. I can’t see a better fit. If it comes down to BoSox and Cards and I will understand your loyalty. What a wonderful but difficult choice between most undoubtedly the classiest franchises in MLB.

    As you can ask any former player with Cards, I don’t think you will find a more knowledgable, loyal fan base that will wrap your arms around your family and embrace you as the newest member of Redbird Nation. I hope to find next year my sons staying up too late during the school year listening to west coast games on the radio with Curt Schilling on the mound.

  31. rockysredarmy permalink
    November 3, 2007 10:27 am

    How’s it going Curt?

    I’d like to echo the sentiments of the guy who posted before me.

    We’d love to see you here in St. Louis, as soon as you mentioned the possibility there was excitement buzzing around.

    I’d also love to see what Adam Wainwright could learn from you.

  32. mantlerose permalink
    November 3, 2007 2:28 pm

    Curt…PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE come to St. Louis for 2008!!! You would make such a big difference to the Cardinals chances. St. Louis won 78 games this year with a pitching rotation by committee. I watched games here and there where if only the Cardinals had a good starting pitcher would have been won.

    Curt….PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE come to St. Louis for 2008!!! Before missing the playoffs this season, the Cardinals made the playoffs every year going back to 2000. You wearing the “birds on the bat” would certaintly clinch the division title and send the Cardinals deep into October.

    Curt…PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE come to St. Louis for 2008!!! There are so many things that the young players could learn from you, that the young pitchers could learn from you, not to mention helping Mark Mulder learn to pitch and be confident when he comes back, not to mention the support and respect that a veteran player gets every time from the St. Louis faithful when they end up in a Cardinals uniform…oh Curt PLEASE come to St. Louis!!!

  33. redmeansgo4 permalink
    November 3, 2007 5:24 pm

    I’ve always been a diehard Cardinal fan but I’ll be honest with you, this season was difficult to watch because you never knew (save for Adam Wainwright) who was going to be pitching the next day and what kind of performance you were going to get.

    We need a little stability in that rotation even if it’s only for one year, and the other Cardinal fans that commented on this post said it brilliantly when they mentioned what a faithful and knowledgable fan base we have in St Louis.

    Not to discount the value that Jason Varitek has to the Red Sox – he’s a great leader and has done so much for the Red Sox franchise, but with Yadier Molina behind the dish, other teams’ running game disappears when any Cardinal pitcher is on the hill.

    If you do decide that the East coast isn’t the right fit for you anymore, there are a lot of Cardinal fans that would love to see you with the birds and the bat on the front of your jersey!

  34. elefonthed permalink
    November 3, 2007 9:13 pm

    Please come to Saint Louis! I mean, come one. Please!

    I don’t know if my Cardinals will offer $13 million. I love them to death, but they never seem to offer huge contracts like that. But it’s only for a year…so maybe. Ugh, I really hope they do.

    Either way, we would all love to have you. And not just because you’re name is Curt Schilling (although that helps). We need a reliable vet to help usher Wainwright and hopefully Reyes along. And without Carp for some of the year, and Mulder kind of being up in the air, you’re exactly what La Russa is going to need this year: a top notch, tough as nails, big game, winning pitcher to look to when things get rough.

    I know you’ve won two Series in the last four years up there in Bean Town, but we’ve made it there ourselves twice since ’04 too. Please please please be a part of the bridge that guides our recent success towards our future vision. You could have such a huge impact on this team. From mentoring to leading to the most important part: playing. The Lou needs you!

    I’m afraid you’re staying in Boston. And I won’t hate you if you do. But I will love you forever if you come pitch for my Cardinals!

    On a personal note: I’m glad you always speak your mind. I hate seeing celebrities read off prescribed opinions and answers. You really balance out the, “No comment,” guys.

    Thanks for your time over these last 21 years Curt Thrilling; baseball thrives off of guys like you.

    Hopefully anxious,

    Cory Watkins
    Saint Louis Cardinals fan for life

  35. bigweave permalink
    November 3, 2007 9:21 pm




  36. carysoxnut permalink
    November 4, 2007 6:55 am


    I very much respect the fact that you represent yourself. I’m sure you know the story of Ted Williams refusing a pay raise from Tom Yawkey because he had a bad year. Quite an amazing thing and it showed what kind of unique man he was. You’re now in a position to do something like that. Find out if the Theo wants you back. If he actually does, then make it happen.


  37. ladybos permalink
    November 4, 2007 2:00 pm


    I’m a newcomer to this site. I’ve always heard you had a blog so I decided to check it out today.

    Curt, I love you but everything with you has to be over-dramatized. You ain’t going anywhere…No need to write love letters to your teammates, no need to play the “Thanks for the memories” song. No need to list a bunch of teams you think you might end your career with. Like you, I’m a Christian with a lot of faith…I know for sure you will be with the Sox next year. I have prayed to God about it and I know God answers my prayers.

    And you know what, if they give you an incentive-laden contract instead of a gurantee contract…take it. It will make you work even harder and proove to the world that you still have what it takes.

    Love you!

  38. franklinresident1 permalink
    November 4, 2007 9:23 pm


    Because you can never tell where these things will end up, I wanted to say thanks to you. Not for the 2 World Series titles (not that I’m not thankful for those) but for all that you’ve done for ALS. My Dad died of ALS in 1998. I am likely in the 5 – 10% of the cases where there is a familial link in the disease. So I am about 5 – 8 years from needing this assistance. In all likelihood, your work won’t help me when my time comes. But it will help when my children could be faced with the same fate as me and my father before me.

    You and Mike Timlin have meant more to me in your time here than any other athletes in Boston have ever meant. And it has nothing to do with you accomplishments between the lines. I can’t tell you what your work with the ALS societies, Angel funds and other ALS related charities mean to me and my family.

    thank you. I hope that you finish 2008 with a Red Sox jersey on. If you don’t, I’ll always be a fan of yours.

  39. karendoug permalink
    November 4, 2007 10:41 pm

    Mr. Schilling,

    Having followed your career since the Blue Jays – Phillies World Series, let me just say you’re the type of pitcher ANY team would be happy to have anchoring their staff. More importantly, you’ve always struck me as a tremendous person.

    The work you’re doing for troubled youth, via the Webster House, is very significant. Also, my late aunt passed away because of ALS complications, so your efforts to eradicate that insidious disease are just as commendable.

    This is my first posting, so if I sound a bit sycophantic, I don’t mean to. Wherever you wind up, I hope it’s a good fit for you, both professionally and personally.

    I just have two requests, if you’re amenable to addressing them, that would be great. If not, I’ll continue to follow your career and wish you the best, nonetheless.

    There’s a Belchertown, Massachusetts man named Shawn Harris who’s a former serviceman back from Iraq who needs financial assistance badly. He’s mired in debt through no fault of his own, and may lose his house. You and the other readers of your blog can get more information about him by accessing

    As for my wife and I, we’re a childless couple hoping to hear the pitter patter of little feet in our household. Consequently, we’re attempting to adopt a newborn infant. Naturally, being big baseball fans, the first person we attempted to reach out to for help was Shea Hildenbrand. Given the controversy that flared last year when he was with Toronto, over his contention that the Blue Jays weren’t more supportive when he and his wife adopted their daughter, you would have thought he would at least have had the courtesy of returning our email. But he didn’t. Same with Hall of Famer Jim Palmer, who was adopted himself.

    Anyways, in this age of social media, networking is key, so if we can use your great blog to help facilitate our efforts to identify a prospective birthmother who wants to develop an adoption plan with us, that would be sweet! You and your readers can access our website at

    Thanks for permitting us to post this message, and best always to you and yours. With kindest personal regards, we remain,

    Sincerely yours,

    Karen and Doug

  40. chessedxout permalink
    November 5, 2007 5:37 am

    Schilling, wherever you go next year, we’ll certainly see you in the hall of fame.

  41. elefonthed permalink
    November 5, 2007 6:16 am

    Just reiterating, we really really really want you to come play in Saint Louis Curt.

  42. mikebolt82 permalink
    November 5, 2007 12:23 pm

    Curt, you would fit right in, in STL. Best fans, great talent, excellent organization, brand new stadium. Wouldn’t you rather deal with STL media and STL traffic than east coast media and congested highways, etc.

    Were a contender every year and you would love playing at Wrigley and brand new Miller Park, etc……….besides all the other new stadiums in the NL central. You would dominate free swinging Soriano, show them rooks in MIL who da man is and punch out Griffey with a nasty splitter.

    LaRussa and Duncan would be an excellent fit for you. Bill Dewitt is ready to open his wallet and MO is committed to bringing in more offense this year.

    Wouldnt it be fitting for STL to play Boston in October 2008 and get redemption. Game 1 starter Schilling vs. Beckett. Sounds good to me. You could tutor Wainwright too.

    GO BIRDS!!!!

  43. philliesschillfan38 permalink
    November 5, 2007 5:43 pm

    As a life time Phillies fan, I would be so very happy to see you back in the pinstripes. I have followed your career since you were with the Astros and would love to have you back in the NL. All the regulars at the ball park miss seeing you and Shonda at the games. I hope to see you there either as a Phillie or with the Red Sox.


  44. November 9, 2007 3:52 pm

    Great year with the sox and congrats to you and your team!
    I can’t wait till next year!

    One questions, I run a baseball card blog called Wax Heaven. Is there any chance you could add my WordPress to your link?


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