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Clemens and us?

May 7, 2007

I am not sure how people can misconstrue things as badly as they do, but it’s being done. If you read any of the sports writers with integrity, the guys that printed the ENTIRE quote I gave last night, I thought it was clear. Roger Clemens coming to Boston was something none of us in the clubhouse had any control over. No one is a bigger fan of what he’s done than I am. I’ve said repeatedly that I think he’s the greatest pitcher that’s ever played. There is not team he doesn’t make better but we had no control over him coming here.

I would have loved to have him, I said so, but the second he chose the Yankees it became a non-factor. This game is hard enough worrying about the things you can control much less the things you can’t. We have a very very good team. I think we have the best staff in the game right now. Can that change? Sure it can but no one here can tell us how when and why it will change. Maybe it won’t. Bottom line is if you are in our clubhouse wishing we had Clemens you are basically telling a teammate you suit up with every day that we’re better off without you. I’ve made that mistake in the past and refused to do it again. CHB can sob all he wants, Rocket coming here gave him something legitimate to actually write about for the next 4 months. Now he can stick to the bitter style he’s perfected and talk about how bad we suck because we failed to get Rocket. The guy will retire as the greatest pitcher that ever lived. He wanted to go to NY, done deal. I can’t stress it enough, it was a non-issue before yesterday and is a non-issue today. We had no control over him coming or going so it was never more than weight room chatter.

The other amazing aspect of this is that the same media people who’ve railed on him for the last 6 months for taking this course are now taking sides in who screwed up and who didn’t in getting him. Who the hell can blame the guy for taking what amounts to 20 some million bucks to pitch 4 months of the season. There isn’t a person reading this who wouldn’t kill for that opportunity. The Yankees have been CRUSHED with injuries, their staff has had an enormously disproportionate amount of injuries and we haven’t. They needed to fill some holes and their owner has never shirked at spending money to field a world series caliber team. I don’t blame him or them, hell I laud them for it.

So ya, I’d have loved to pitch with Roger Clemens. On a personal level it would have meant I was teammates with 3 of the greatest pitchers to ever play the game. I’ve never ever cared about the ‘spotlight’ as it pertains to that sort of thing. I’ve always believed if I pitched and did what I was capable of doing it would all work out in the end. Contrary to CHB’s belief, and she may find it hard to believe, I LOVE pitching with Daisuke, I love to be able to see first hand what he brings to the team and the organization. I love our staff as it stands now and if we can stay healthy I think we are in a great spot. I’ll take the Texan we got and pit him against anybody in the game over the next 5-10 years. He’s special and starting to show people a glimpse of what he’s going to be.

So while I did say “we don’t need him”, it was at the end of a quote that started with “I’d have loved to have him”.

If Roger Clemens in NY means the Sox don’t win the World Series this year then we weren’t the world series caliber team we thought we are, and we believe we are.

322 Comments leave one →
  1. r3d50x permalink
    May 10, 2007 1:40 pm

    Clemens should do baseball a favor and retire with dignity. The retired, unretired Michael Jordan bit is as old as he is. Yes, he’s one of the greatest ever, and yes, the sox *don’t* need him. I’m glad boston isn’t paying him all that $$. It would be better spent grooming a younger pitcher. Clemens only cares about himself. Hell, his agent basically said that (in not so precise terms) he chose the yanks, because the others didn’t kiss his ass enough.

  2. May 10, 2007 3:10 pm

    jerwax33, you are a moron.
    reply #1 is by far the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. Curt, you are completely right, if he being in pinstripes means we don’t win the series, or the division, then we just didn’t field the best team. Yes, roger is the best. but we don’t need him. We have a shot at the division, the AL and the WS. I say bring him on, he being in NY makes it just that much more fun. I wanna see a beckett vs clemens matchup. talk about a pitchers duel. bring it rocket. Papi’s gonna eat that fastball for breakfast.

  3. suemcloughlin permalink
    May 10, 2007 4:43 pm

    Curt,

    You are a gentlelman and phenomenal athlete. After I had heard the buzz about Clemens I knew why he signed with the Yankee’s….simply for $. Yes, I am a biased Red Sox fan..but logically….it all leads back to $. Yes, he would have been great to have but the team is fanatstic without him….thanks to having a pitcher like yourself! Don’t sweat the press nonsense! You are a class act! God Bless! Go SOX!

  4. boston1924 permalink
    May 10, 2007 6:53 pm

    It’s amazing what ignorance can bring upon the media. I agree that many of the so-called sports writers are merely attempting to create controversy to justify their salaries. Of course people want to read about how Curt said “this and that” about Clemens because it is the same Jerry Springer Reality Show drama that they want to sell instead of the actual facts.

    Thank you for taking the time to set the record straight even if it shouldn’t have to come to this point. And for all those who want to get their 2 cents in as to how much the SOX suck… PLEASE!!! yeah, of course Clemens can certainly make a great addition to any team but come on!!! the SOX are in the lead!!! it’s not like they are at the bottom and told Clemens to take a hike! I think you said it best, it’d be great to have him, but we don’t need him.

    sheeeesh what else do people want? forget about the rest of the WS caliber talent on the team. forget that the SOX just paid 100 million to suit up Dice-K… without Clemens the SOX are useless. might as well sell the team to another city, tear down fenway, and give Massachusetts back to England as a colony… and of course it’s all Curt’s fault because obvioulsy not only is he a starting pitcher but Schilling and GW Bush are the ones who have the final say as to who gets on the SOX roster (Note: the GWB reference is a stab at the idiot who wrote the first comment) oh and in case CHB wants to quote this: I AM BEING SARCASTIC!!!

  5. dsdolphins2592 permalink
    May 10, 2007 9:10 pm

    Even though Roger Clemens is still a dominating pitcher there would have been no room for him here in Boston because we have Schillingas our ace followed by Beckett and Matsuzaka as our 2 and 3 pitchers, Wakefield after them and nearing his return Lester will take over at the final spot in the rotation for tavarez. Coming back only for half the season isn’t worth 28 million like the Yankees paid him. If he wanted to come back to play the game he loves he should pitch the whole season if he wants what he’s worth.

  6. jstri permalink
    May 11, 2007 11:08 am

    Clemens does not in place in the sox rotation. Anyway, this leaves the team money down the line for what ever will be needed come October.

  7. nutz4bball permalink
    May 11, 2007 5:36 pm

    I agree Curt, you guys don’t need him. For now. I’m a big time Yankee fan. I hate the fact they brought Mussina back. They should’ve tried to void Pavano’s contract after his car accident last year. I’m elated that Rocket will be in pinstripes again. But I also know it doesn’t guarantee anything.

    And as a Yankee fan, let me say “THANK GOD!” to your pre-season statement that you’ll never pitch for the Yankees. While I respect you for your charity work, pitching in the “Bloody Sock” game(Yes, I believe you, not Gary Thorne) I think your are an arrogant jerk. You have an air that you are above everyone else in the game. You were like that in Philly too. I lived in Philly and supported you guys from 91-95. Went to a ton of games at the Vet. I didn’t like you then, I don’t like you now.

  8. ed79 permalink
    May 11, 2007 6:05 pm

    your are right the rocket is one of the greatest pitches , but i remember a game 7 he could come out to pitch and i remember another important game you came out limping and with a bloody sock !!!

  9. soxfannj permalink
    May 12, 2007 7:49 am

    Rocket is / was a great pitcher. Let’s not forget… He will have a much tougher task in the AL & he will be a year older. He averaged only 6 IP last year (and hopefully his ERA will go up). The pen will still need to get them through 7-8&9. The Stankees can have him. GO SOX!

  10. clearview60 permalink
    May 12, 2007 8:33 am

    Have you ever noticed how many times Curt uses “I”, “I’ll”, & “I’ve” in his articles? I stopped counting with this one, just way too many..
    You know, when there was Randy Johnson/Red Sox rumors a few years back, there were whispers that Randy wouldn’t come because he didn’t like Schilling when they were together in Arizona. Could never understand why back then. Now that a fews years have passed and we’ve witnessed Curt’s antics, it’s crystal clear now why people wouldn’t like him.
    It’s funny in life how often the best people in sports, work, etc.. are the biggest jerks with the biggest mouths. Whatever happened to being humble?

  11. May 12, 2007 7:28 pm

    Hey Curt. I saw/heard you remarks about a dozen times and I still can’t see how anyone could misconstrue what you said unless they were just hearing what they wanted to hear. Roger Clemens probably would have helped the Sox and probably will help the Yankees. But I understood your statements to be merely praises to your own pitching staff and not any kind of attack on The Rocket. Right now, the Yankees need him a whole lot more than the Red Sox do. Sox pitching is almost on cruise control right now.

  12. redsoxwsc33 permalink
    May 12, 2007 9:24 pm

    Hey Curt,

    I think that Clemens is in it for the money, as well as being with his best buddie Pettite. He was probably the best Red Sox of all time (other than Williams and Cy). He doesn’t care enough about his son and wife to retire from baseball.

    Our team looks really good this year and when we get Lester back we will be even better. Tavarez is doing alright in the #5 spot in the rotation, but he belongs in the bullpen. Beckett and Matsuzaka are also pitching great. You, I Think, are the ace of the team, the heart and soul of this team. You go out every game and pitch your hardest.

    I would really apreciate it if you can shoot me an email, and tell me about the team and how things are going with you and the Red Sox.

    Thanks,
    Joe

    GO SOX!

  13. skoolboy64 permalink
    May 13, 2007 9:14 am

    I am concerned that Clemens is setting a dangerous precedent for baseball. I don’t like the idea of a professional athlete retiring every year then selling his services to the highest bidder the next season.
    I can see Major League Baseball trying to set up criteria for this — like maybe making the recent retiree stay out of competitive baseball for a year before coming back in. Or perhaps the offended team he retired from should receive suitable compensation from the new team he signs with.
    I have always been a Clemens fan but I don’t like what he’s doing.

  14. bassrod permalink
    May 15, 2007 7:35 am

    Screw Clemens. I agree with you Curt. Yes, he’s the best pitcher of my time for sure. But I like the blend of youth and experience we have with you and Wake anchoring young bucks like Dice, Beckett, and hopefully Lester. 20 someodd mil. for maybe 10-12 wins? Damn! Lucky man. But let the Yanks pay for that crap, and hopefully it blows up in their face like the rest of their recent pitching acquisitions. Keep up the great work curt and the rest of the crew. SOX ROCK!

  15. soxfan07 permalink
    May 15, 2007 10:20 am

    Curt…us Sox fans know its not Boston’s fault that Clemens isn’t coming.
    Tell you the truth…I don’t want him there because after this season i bet he is retiring. So we don’t need him, we have quality pitchers besides Tavariz.
    Ya’ll need to do something with him. Take him out bring in Jon Lester.

  16. beatlejuice72 permalink
    May 19, 2007 9:36 pm

    Curt,

    With all due respect, I think that Roger Clemens has become the Barbara Streisand of Major League Baseball. What is this? His 3rd “farewell tour”? Listen, I agree with you that he is one of the best pitchers in Major League Baseball history. And I know that you are a true fan who knows the history of the game. But Clemens has a history of being disingenuous. This is the same guy who after the ’96 season said he wanted to pitch closer to his family in Texas. Where does he go? Toronto. Now, I’m no geography expert, but the last time I checked Toronto wasn’t very close to Texas. Earlier this year he said that money wouldn’t be a factor in where he went. Look, I am a capitalist and I applaud anyone in this world who wants to make money. And there’s nothing wrong with Clemens being one of millions of people who do. But for goodness sake just be honest and don’t give me any of this B.S. about how “it’s not about the money.”

    Before I go, I just want to say on a personal note that I’m a Cubs fan, but I rooted for the Red Sox in the 2004 World Series. And I don’t care what anyone says, your performance in Game 6 of the ALCS is one of the best pitching performances I’ve ever seen. Not only was that courageous, but you’re courageous for sticking up for the troops. God bless you, man.

  17. runnyegg2000 permalink
    June 15, 2007 12:06 pm

    Hilarious Roger Clemens in 2057!

  18. pumpfitnesspt permalink
    June 19, 2007 7:09 am

    Hi Curt,

    My name is Michael and I’m a 42 year old personal trainer on the South Shore. I’m a huge Curt Schilling fan and marvel at the accomplishments that guys like yourself, Roger Clemens, Tim Wakefield, Randy Johnson are still performing at 40+. Its a testament to your hard work and dedication to the game you love!

    I’m really going to put myself out on the line today, but nothing ventured, nothing gained!

    At 42 I realize that 40 is definitely the new 30, lolol We 40+ guys still have plenty of gas left in the tank. You keep playing until your physically unable to do so. I LOVE WATCHING!

    I’m sure the Red Sox have a trainer for everything. Maybe I’m sadly mistaken? I’d like to offer you my personal services as your trainer. I’m extremely sincere in my proposal. Lately the luck of the draw just hasn’t been going your way aside from the gem you pitched barely missing out on a no-hitter. Poetry in motion Curt!

    I’m a firm believer that we can all get better regardless of our age. Theres no match for years of experience, etc. . . I believe you have much more in the tank. I’d like to teach you how to harness it. Really dig deep within yourself until it hurts. I’ll take off the extra weight. I’ll make you better, stronger and faster! The choice is yours.

    If your interested please feel free to contact me. I respect your privacy and I’m not out to cash in on your celebrity. You’ll be treated just like any other client I train. References can also be provided. I truly hope I hear back from you. I know I can help you meet all your personal goals. You’ll be pitching for many years to come.

    Sincerely,

    Michael

  19. luluxbelle permalink
    June 19, 2007 2:32 pm

    jealous much?

  20. paulyd12 permalink
    June 23, 2007 7:23 am

    Kurt,
    First of all I applaud your innovative thinking in starting this blog. I agree with every word you had written and spoken about in regards to Roger Clemens.
    In relation to having no control over who the organization brings in and moves out on a weekly/monthly basis. What is the overall thinking of a ballplayer as this time of year approaches (trade deadline)? I had read an article yesterday in the Chicago Tribune quoting Jim Thome, something to the effect that regardless of weather you are playing well or playing not so well you will probably see your name pop up in trade rumors. Is this a frame of mind that ball players get into around this time of year, or is this just an overall thinking in your profession that you could be hear today, gone tomorrow.

    Best of luck and get that shoulder healed were gonna need ya in the second half of this season.

    Paul

  21. swpd107 permalink
    December 20, 2007 5:31 pm

    Hey Curt. The constitution grants you the right to remain silent. You need to use it. Your statements about Clemens make as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. I think that they ought to send your bloody sock to the crime lab to see whats in it. Dude. Get a grip.

  22. MilesWithMeaning permalink
    February 11, 2008 9:13 am

    Schilling uses Performance Enhancing Drug? February 11, 2008
    Posted by MilesWithMeaning in Uncategorized.
    add a comment , edit post

    Curt Schilling received a cortisone shot in his right shoulder on Friday, beginning a treatment plan the Red Sox hope will bring the right-hander back before the end of the season, The Boston Globe reported.The painkilling shot would allow Schilling to begin rehabbing an injured shoulder tendon. Boston’s team physician believes the tendon is damaged, not torn, and that rehabilitation gives Schilling his best chance to play this year.

    This begs the question. If HGH is considered a “performance enhancing drug,” why isn’t cortisone? It is a drug. It allows for performance enhancing capabilities. Therefore, it must be.

    “Well, cortisone is safe and HGH is not!” Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, it is 100% the opposite. Here is a partial list of side effects from cortisone:

    * an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of your throat; swelling of your lips, tongue, or face; or hives);
    * increased blood pressure (severe headache or blurred vision); or
    * sudden weight gain (more than 5 pounds in a day or two).

    Other, less serious side effects may be more likely to occur. Continue to take cortisone and talk to your doctor if you experience

    * insomnia;
    * nausea, vomiting, or stomach upset;
    * fatigue or dizziness;
    * muscle weakness or joint pain;
    * problems with diabetes control; or
    * increased hunger or thirst.

    Other side effects that occur only rarely, usually with high doses of cortisone, include

    * acne,
    * increased hair growth,
    * thinning of the skin,
    * cataracts,
    * glaucoma,
    * osteoporosis,
    * roundness of the face, and
    * changes in behavior.

    Side effects other than those listed here may also occur.

    Here is the list of side effects of HGH:

    – carpal tunnel syndrome (not proven by any means)

    – tenderness or pain at the site of injection (only when used subcutaneously).

    Tell me which is the dangerous one?!

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