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September 11, 2008

It appears there is really no shot at rational chat about any of the previously mentioned topics. But in hopes that more people will vote, and vote informed, I thought I’d post links to some relevant material concerning the 4 people on the ticket this year.

You can check their voting records by checking the right hand side of the front page

Senator Obama

Senator Biden

Senator McCain

Governor Palin

At the very least if people are going to rant and rave and make claims, including me, there should be some actual fact behind it, and not ‘fact’ as printed in your local Party aligned newspaper or TV station. I think we can all agree that listening to the media ‘inform’ us about the candidates is as stupid as drawing straws for your vote.

38 Comments leave one →
  1. dannynelson permalink
    September 11, 2008 9:15 am

    Mr. Schilling,

    Thank you for sharing this resource. It is indeed hard to find objectivity in the 21st century. I am impressed that even though we all know your views, your desire is to help us know the facts so we can make an informed decision for ourselves.

    Thanks again,

    Danny Nelson
    Theophilux.com

  2. rposner permalink
    September 11, 2008 9:22 am

    Fair enough, Curt. Though there is such a tendency to blame the media for everything. The media, in my opinion, plays a critical role in the political process. And while there may be bias at times (on both ends of the spectrum), I think that most media can and is objective (except the opinions pages and tv commentators).

    I notice you often suggest that those who don’t agree with you shouldn’t read your blog. I don’t agree with you on anything (except the Red Sox, of course), but I enjoy seeing how the other side thinks.

    Keep it up, even though your opinions make me cringe.

    I am having a hard time agreeing here. I was recently forwarded a report from the media stating that Senator Obama made the statement “We are no longer a Christian Nation..” and the uproar that followed. Making the rare but smart decision to check this out myself I found out that while he did say something like this an incredibly important word was omitted from the report. What he said was “We are no longer JUST a Christian Nation…”.

    Whether I believe in the candidate or not, what I don’t want, is to be lied to and that to me is the same as lying. From Stuart Scott to Hannity and Colmes to O’Reilly, people are going way too far way too often to portray the ‘other guy’ as a misinformed, often times igorant, dope. That’s just not the case and there are so many responses in this thread and others that validate just that. Read some of the diatribe posted by responders here. The extremes people go is baffling. This is my blog, a place where I can state my opinions and my beliefs. I care not one iota if you disagree, not one. I am far from right and that’s ok, it happens and I’ve never had a problem owning up to that.

    But people are so damn quick to say “Ya but you’re guy sucks” or “Ya but your guy did X”. When was the last time you read or heard the candidates NOT refute an allegation but rather spell out, in detail, their position? Everyone is quick to the trigger to be on the offensive, and in the end it seems everyone loses sight of the fact that these people are here to serve us, no the other way around.

  3. September 11, 2008 9:55 am

    Thanks for the information, Curt. I’ll definitely look into this (even though I do disagree with your choice to support McCain).

    Take care of that shoulder, okay? ;)

  4. September 11, 2008 10:04 am

    It was fairly rational for a little while. These kinds of things tend to turn into crap-slinging behind the perceived anonymity of the internet, however. VoteSmart is actually a great resource – the kind of non-partisan reference we should be looking at for our information instead of relying on the deceptive demagogery of Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore.

    Personally, as an informed voter, I’ll be voting for Obama. McCain, even though everybody knew him as something of a loose cannon, was at one point an honorable guy respected by almost everybody on both sides of the aisle. But he’s conducted an extremely sleazy campaign in the general, chose a nitwit as his VP candidate who has zero experience or dredibility on economics and foreign policy issues, and didn’t properly examine her background given the amount of scandal that’s floating to the surface. Even the honorable, stand-up John McCain of years past was a bad decision-maker, as his record shows.

  5. September 11, 2008 10:27 am

    Another good site: http://www.ontheissues.org/

  6. asetisis permalink
    September 11, 2008 10:46 am

    Just the facts

    Fact Checking McCain: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html

    Fact Checking Obama: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html

  7. tommy17 permalink
    September 11, 2008 10:58 am

    Curt, just read your comments in the NY papers regarding the Ny fans. They were totally unprofessional on your part. Do you ever learn to just act like an adult? I mean, we know you have had success as an athlete, but sucess does not make you an authority on everything.

    As far as your Patriot/Jet comments, you should know this: Much like Boston Red Sox fans were before the recent championships, Jet fans always expect the worst. There is not one Jet fan I have spoken to who is “happy” Brady got injured. We just figure someone else will beat the Jets, maybe even another team in the division. No call whatsoever for your comments.

    By the wya, the Giants beat the Patriots last year anyway in case you forgot.

    Start acting like an adult and show some responsibiltiy; it must be the reason why even though you were a star pitcher, you were hated in every clubhouse you entered.

  8. chrisholmes permalink
    September 11, 2008 11:02 am

    “From Stuart Scott to Hannity and Colmes to O’Reilly, people are going way too far way too often to portray the ‘other guy’ as a misinformed, often times igorant, dope.”

    Agreed Curt.

    The media shapes things, and it is unfortunate, because the people who don’t take the time to find out there’s ONE MISSING WORD in a critical sentence are the real victims here… They’re being duped and manipulated by the media, which, like it or not, has its own agenda.

    I hate the political season.

    This is why I think it’s so important that we each figure out what issues are important to us, as voters, and then figure out what each candidate’s stance is. Everything else is rhetoric and misinformation.

  9. billyball15 permalink
    September 11, 2008 11:13 am

    A NY Yankee fan living in NY who is for McCain and Palin. Fox news is the only news worth watching on tv. CNN is liberal bias just as ESPN is Boston Bias. Boston and being a Liberal are the same thing anyhow. Yankees will always be a dynasty. Republican owners and a Republican loyal fan base.

    Curt,
    If you want a true comparison of the issues, look no further than this!

    2008 Presidential Canidate Comparison:

    ISSUE
    JOHN McCAIN

    BARAK OBAMA
    Favors new drilling offshore US Yes No
    Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it Yes No

    Served in the US Armed Forces Yes No
    Amount of time served in the US Senate 22 YEARS 173 DAYS
    Will institute a socialized national health care plan No Yes
    Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy No Yes
    Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately No Yes
    Supports gun ownership rights Yes No
    Supports homosexual marriage No Yes
    Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase No Yes
    Voted against making English the official language No Yes
    Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals No Yes
    CAPITAL GAINS TAX
    MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
    OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of thei r retirement income.)
    DIVIDEND TAX
    MCCAIN 15% (no change)
    OBAMA 39.6% – (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)
    INCOME TAX
    MCCAIN
    (no changes)
    Sing le making 30K – tax $4,500
    Single making 50K – tax $12,500
    Single making 75K – tax $18,750
    Married making 60K- tax $9,000
    Married making 75K – tax $18,750
    Married making 125K – tax $31,250
    OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K – tax $8,400
    Single making 50K – tax $14,000
    Single making 75K – tax $23,250
    Married making 60K – tax $16,800
    Married making 75K – tax $21,000
    Married making 125K – tax $38,750
    Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!
    INHERITANCE TAX
    MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
    OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
    Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to th ese taxes.
    NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
    New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

    Curt if you ever ran for office I would vote for you as long as you didn’t spew that Boston non-sense.

  10. empirelady permalink
    September 11, 2008 11:37 am

    Curt,
    Please be advised that what I am about to say does not diminish in any way the great respect that I have for you as a human being and the great respect that I have for the tremendous things that you have done,continue to do. You have always had my support and always will. That said,while I agree with you on almost everything,I see that we disagree when it comes to the political issues. I am not making reference to things such as the right to choose,abortion,or stem cell research,which I support and McCain clearly does not. I rather bring your attention to what you mentioned in regards to national security. On September 11,2001 MY CITY(I live in New York City)was attacked by terrorists and they destroyed two beautiful towers in my city. By the way,they may have killed many people and destroyed the towers but they have not destroyed my city or killed the determination,will of the people who live here to continue. Anyway,the man responsible for this terrorist attack,Bin Laden,has never been captured and NOTHING is being done to go after him in the mountains where he is living and laughing. As for another terrorist attack,unless he is stopped,captured,I believe that at some point he will attack again. Instead of going to war in Iraq,which NEVER did anything to the United States,we should be in the mountains of Afghanistan going after the man who we KNOW attacked this country seven years ago. You tell me,as I would like to know your thoughts,and I do value your opinion,how are we better off and safer after five years in Iraq,instead of going after the man who attacked the United States. I watched my city attacked that day and watched the towers fall. Does that not account for anything?…On a lighter note,I read your comments regarding the New York Jets and how they feel with the loss of Tom Brady. You made it sound as if the Jets fans,which I am not one of them,were happy that Brady got hurt. I do not believe that they are happy he got injured,especially when the man screamed in pain. As for the comment about the Jets maybe getting to the Super Bowl,may I remind you that my team,the New York Giants,also a New York team,did make it to the Super Bowl and won!..One final thought. I am a huge supporter of two basebal teams,the Boston Red Sox and the New York Mets. I do not know if you saw the press conference with the pitcher for the New
    Mets,Billy Wagner,who said that despite needing surgery and being gone for the rest of this season,as well as next(he needs Tommy John surgery)he is vowing to return to play. He said that even though he is 37,he does not want to retire under these circumstances,and that both his wife and 10 yea old son want him to play at least one more time when he is well enough. Does it sound familiar to you? I do not think that you should retire under these circumstances,and I know that your wife said your children would like to see you continue to play. So please consider playing for at least one more season,and retire on a much better note than stopping due to the injury. Please think about it as we all,including me,want to have you back…I wish you continued god health,continue to get better,I thank you with all of my heart for everything that you do,including the tremendous work that you do for ALS,and I look forward to hearing your response to this post. As I said,I truly value your opinion,and welcome any comments that you have regarding what I said about 9/11,about the capture of the man who attacked that day.
    Donna Blanc in New York City,empirelady87@hotmail.com

  11. September 11, 2008 11:39 am

    is there another non-partisan source of information on Governor Palin? She’s not been a senator on the state or federal level, so there’s no voting record and based on the link you provided (bold emphasis mine):

    “Governor Sarah Heath Palin REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO PROVIDE ANY
    RESPONSES TO CITIZENS ON ISSUES THROUGH THE 2006
    NATIONAL POLITICAL AWARENESS TEST WHEN ASKED TO DO SO BY

    Key national leaders of both major parties including:
    John McCain, Republican Senator
    Geraldine Ferraro, Former Democratic Congresswoman
    Michael Dukakis, Former Democratic Governor
    Bill Frenzel, Former Republican Congressman
    Richard Kimball, Project Vote Smart President

    Over 100 news organizations throughout the nation also urged their candidates to supply their issue positions through the National Political Awareness Test.”

    Thanks in advance

  12. empirelady permalink
    September 11, 2008 11:41 am

    Correction-
    I just realized a typing mistake. I wish you continued good health,not god health. Sorry about that! And I do thank you for voicing your thoughts and opinions, because even when we d not agree,I do want to hear what you have to say always. Sorry about the error.
    Donna Blanc,empirelady87@hotmail.com

  13. nyy4ever permalink
    September 11, 2008 11:49 am

    Curt,
    I read your article that yankee fans suck for being happy that Tom Brady will be out for the rest of the year.It’s not right to say all new york fans are that way. I am a Yankee Fan and a New york Giants fan and also I am a Christian, and I thought you were. but with these remarks I’m starting to doubt that. I do not like the Red Sox or The Patriots but I do not want anything to any players. Prove me wrong

  14. kfish25 permalink
    September 11, 2008 12:18 pm

    In all fairness, I couldn’t even get through all the previous comments without getting frustrated. As long as your opinion is carefully thought out and backed up with facts, more power to you. I do not happen to agree with your position, but I expect others to respect my opinion, and in doing so, respect others’ as well. Until this is the prevailing attitude, I don’t think much productive discussion will be able to take place. I fully recognize that there are folks on both the left and right who shout slogans and mantras without thinking and get angry about things they assume about the other party. Until this wasted energy is redirected, I don’t know what we can accomplish together.

    Be well.
    K

  15. gasox permalink
    September 11, 2008 1:04 pm

    Curt,

    Thanks for putting this info online. I am an Independent voter and I can tell you that John McCain was not my first choice, but once he picked Sarah Palin (and I did my research on her) he definitely picked the right person, and he now has my vote as well.

    The one thing that is great about living in America is we have an opportunity to vote on our elected officials, in this year of “change” the only party that I really see trying to make a change is the McCain/Palin ticket. For someone to talk about “change” for 2 years and then pick a running mate that has been in politics forever is not working for “change”, they are working for their party.

    McCain is the one that has consistently crossed party lines to work with the “other side” and while I might not agree with everything he partnered with them on, I admire him for trying to work with everyone.

    I really think this country needs to get away from “I’m a Republican or Democrat” and remember that we are all American’s. The “blame” for what is currently going on the country is equally divided by both parties and the American people should be putting pressure on them to start working together for the people that elected them and not the party they are affiliated with.

    On a lighter note. I have enjoyed watching your career. Good Luck with whatever you decide to do next.

  16. edsadowski8 permalink
    September 11, 2008 1:15 pm

    I like http://www.factcheck.org

    It’s great for getting the truth about outrageous campaign ads and claims made during speeches.

  17. September 11, 2008 5:26 pm

    Thanks for the links, I’ll have to check them out just out of curiousity. Again, I’m a total debate kind of girl. I want to see people toe to toe verbalize their issues. Voting records, eh – people tend to flip flop from what they did pre-election campaigning. I want to see the issues that these folks all plan to address and the stances they plan on sticking to for the “long run”.

    That being said, I’ve been avoiding the “he said/she said” comments although the whole “lisptick on a pig” seems to be have been entirely overblown. I get what Obama was saying….I’m not an Obama supporter by any stretch – but I get what he was saying, I don’t think he was referring to Sarah Palin as the farm animal in question.

    While I like John McCain – I don’t know enough about Sarah Palin to know what I think of her; I do love that she’s a working mother – and I think she is completely and whole heartedly representative of what the women’s movement should be supportive of. You CAN have it all. Of course there are compromises to be made, but you don’t have to have youir children suffer because you choose to work. Her selection screams that kind of support.

    At the same time, I do question her ability to be second in command as a result of being inexperienced. This is something that I may need to be wooed on. I mean, heck -I could learn to be the best sportscaster around even though I don’t have a degree in broadcasting – but this isn’t exactly that same platform. So that being said, I’m optomistic for the strides she’s making – at the same time, one of the things I like about the Obama ticket (and probably the only thing I like because I don’t care for Obama) is Joe Biden.

    Truthfully though – a presidential election should not be based on the candidate for running mate, not matter what. We’ve had presidents in the same age bracket as John McCain and it wasn’t an issue then – so it shouldn’t be now either.

    Wow. Sorry to have written a book – I hadn’t anticipated it. :)

  18. kfish25 permalink
    September 11, 2008 6:18 pm

    Sorry. I wasn’t frustrated by the comments on this entry, but previous entries. Just wanted to clarify.

    K

  19. bosoxcratic permalink
    September 11, 2008 6:50 pm

    In response to ardwulf
    But he’s conducted an extremely sleazy campaign in the general
    How so?

    chose a nitwit as his VP candidate who has zero experience or dredibility on economics and foreign policy issues
    And Obama does?
    , and didn’t properly examine her background given the amount of scandal that’s floating to the surface.?
    What scandal? And why do you care if she were properly vetted? I would think that a good juicy scandal would be good for Obama, right?
    Even the honorable, stand-up John McCain of years past was a bad decision-maker, as his record shows.
    Well at least he voted.
    Giuliani said it best when he said -
    “He voted — he voted “present.” (Boos.) Sheesh! I didn’t know about this vote “present” when I was mayor of New York City. (Laughter, cheers, applause.) Sarah Palin didn’t have this vote “present” when she was mayor or governor. (Cheers, applause.) You don’t get “present” — it doesn’t work in an executive job. For president of the United States, it’s not good enough to be present. (Cheers, applause.) You have to make a decision. (Cheers, applause.)”

  20. chibeacher permalink
    September 11, 2008 7:00 pm

    In reading some of the previous posts, is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of Yankee fans have started coming here to bash you and your site? I think it’s a bit ridiculous for people to come here and tell you to shut up and stop talking about what you are talking about. If they don’t like it, they don’t need to read it. It truly is that simple.

    I usually agree with 95% of what you write about, both politically and regarding sports. Keep it up!

  21. stevebeckett permalink
    September 11, 2008 7:00 pm

    Curt,

    I dig the blog. And the take on McCain. I posted about his speech on my blog. His line about serving a cause greater than himself was inspiring b/c it came from a life spent actually doing that. Take Care,

  22. gfishbone permalink
    September 11, 2008 7:14 pm

    Thanks for the links, Curt. I don’t know that the media as a whole are biased but I’m always outraged by the time they spend on the hypothetical horse race aspect. “If the election were held two months early, conducted by USA Today, and decided by 5000 random people contacted by phone, the winner would be Candidate X…” Who cares? They’ll update this meaningless statistic on an hourly basis, but when they give us the daily sports scores, do they tell us how many games up we are over the Yankees? Now that would be useful!

  23. September 11, 2008 7:19 pm

    “When was the last time you read or heard the candidates NOT refute an allegation but rather spell out, in detail, their position?”

    Well, Sen. Obama has a very detailed series of proposals at his website:

    McCain has been criticized for having poorly fleshed out proposals:

    Also, someone has unfortunately been lying to billyball15. Obama will cut taxes for almost everyone:

  24. September 11, 2008 8:37 pm

    “I think we can all agree that listening to the media ‘inform’ us about the candidates is as stupid as drawing straws for your vote.”

    Absolutely, Curt. Absolutely. It is a real shame that our media feels the need to snip the news and give us sound bites instead of giving us everything and letting us determine what we think for ourselves. Gone are the days of real reporting. Now, instead of reporting the news, journalists are hell bent on creating news. It’s very sad. The loss of Tim Russert, may he rest in peace, was huge. I remember the days of Walter Cronkite… now there was some reporting.

    Whether one sits on the left/middle/right… or off some edge, we all deserve to have the news reported and not created by a media that always seems to have a slow news day. Our nation is far too important for them to play like this and it’s sad when our media plays so nonchalantly with the 5th Amendment to our Constitution.

    I have a young adult daughter (she is 21) who has autism as well as some other “obstacles” and she will be voting in her first General Election in a few weeks. A couple of days ago she asked me for whom she should vote. Well, that is a question I refused to answer for her. I told her she had to do her research and figure that out on her own. I am voting for Obama, but I would never presume to tell someone else for whom they should cast their vote. It is an immense right and privilege… I told her to do her research and gave her sites – as objective as I could – to read. Unfortunately, her medium of learning best is audio/visual and if our media could just report the news, she would learn so much better. However, I had to tell her not to pay attention to what is on television or read the pieces in the paper. They are all biased and it just isn’t right.

    rposner said: The media, in my opinion, plays a critical role in the political process. And while there may be bias at times (on both ends of the spectrum), I think that most media can and is objective (except the opinions pages and tv commentators).

    I don’t know where he lives, what he reads, or what television station he listens to, but from what I can tell – as responsible as the media SHOULD be is, in actuality, as IRRESPONSIBLE as they are.

    Chaiah (ToofarawayfromBoston)

  25. massmocad permalink
    September 11, 2008 8:59 pm

    Tommy17-

    Agreed. I think it was totally uncool and unecessary — particularly during the week of 911 …really makes you wonder. A fairly well written response is on bleacher report blog

  26. twhobert permalink
    September 12, 2008 12:27 am

    Schill,

    Please take a moment to view.

    http://www.exchangeyourgovernment.com/index.html

  27. beatlejuice72 permalink
    September 12, 2008 12:50 am

    Whatever happens on November 4th, I’m going to continue to have faith in the American people and be proud to live in the greatest country in the world.

  28. celticswin permalink
    September 12, 2008 9:08 am

    Schill,
    I wonder how Republican you would be without your millions of dollars. It’s funny that as people accumulate wealth, their views become more right leaning. More military. Cut social programs. More intrusive of people’s rights towards gay marriage and when, or if, they can terminate a pregrnancy. Non-Usage of embyonic stem cells that may cure a myraid of diseases. Skepticism of global warming and it’s consequences. Shoot first ask questions later mentality (i.e. Iraq war)…..which by the way I don’t completely oppose however our reasons for going in were not correct….that is of course unless you have found the weapons of mass destruction.

    In closing Shill, you should run for office. At least I know where you stand on the issues, as misguided as they may be. And one last thing, you have just as much experience as Palin and McCain could have done no worse than to pick you for his VP.

  29. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 11:59 am

    Yay! A smart post! First one in a while.

  30. jonnyjbones permalink
    September 12, 2008 1:45 pm

    billyball15,

    Thanks for clarifying your ignorance early in your post so I could read with a smile on my face your complete and utter lack of insight on the race for President.

    JJ

  31. mattmcclime permalink
    September 12, 2008 5:50 pm

    celticswin,
    You don’t know many Republicans, do you? You sort of painted them all with the same brush, and I am thinking you go out of your way to avoid them. Anyhoo (let me preface this by saying I am a Libertarian voting for McCain, just to be up front about it):

    Let’s take this on an issue by issue basis, based on your view of Republicans:
    1. More military.

    As a Libertarian, I believe the ONLY requirement of the federal government is to protect me from harm. As the world continues to lapse into utter chaos, do you feel that our military is prepared for it? We didn’t send enough troops into Iraq to begin with and are constantly reminded of their enlistment rates. So, this one should be a no-brainer.

    2. Cut social programs.
    Specifically, which one? Funding for social programs grew exponentially under Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress. Our government has spent more money on social programs in the last eight years than any other time in history. A Republican president did more for AIDS relief in Africa than any other politician in the world.

    3. More intrusive of people’s rights towards gay marriage and when, or if, they can terminate a pregrnancy.
    Marriage is not a right. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are. And Obama opposes it, too. And Obama didn’t take to the floor of the Senate and decry the marraige amendment act as “antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans”. John McCain did.
    They believe all life to be precious. I think it is a noble outlook, but flawed. While I don’t support overturning Roe v Wade, I certainly don’t see the harm in trying to lessen the number of abortions per year. I would just rather see it done outside of government interference or influence.

    4.Non-Usage of embyonic stem cells that may cure a myraid of diseases.
    John McCain supports stem cell research. He just doesn’t support creating a life simply to destroy it for research. And I don’t support federal funding for it at all. Not for ethical views, but due to the fact that it is more wasteful governmental spending. 12 states currently fund stem cell research (and half of them are embryonic), and what massive discoveries have been made? Please, I would really like to know so I can research it. I would be willing to change my own opinion if there have been major discoveries made. The key word in your statement for me was “may”. When it “does”, then maybe I would consider it.

    5.Skepticism of global warming and it’s consequences.
    Please look up John McCain’s stance on this. He is right there with you.

    6.Shoot first ask questions later mentality (i.e. Iraq war).
    Please look up the statements of prominent Democratic leaders between 1998-2002 regarding Iraq. They were behind it until it became poltically unpopular. Then they all ran for cover. Clinton believed that Iraq had WMDs when he left office. Hillary and several other Democrats believed that they did when we invaded (I can provide quotes if you need them). And President Bush screwed it up. John McCain said so. He was just as frustrated as we were, and he called Rumsfeld the worst Secretary of Defense in history.

  32. justautilityinfielder permalink
    September 13, 2008 2:39 pm

    1. Embryonic stem cell research
    Nobody is stopping you or anyone else from doing research on embryonic stem cells. However the federal government shouldn’t fund it with taxpayers money. If you want it then fund it yourself.

    2. Global warming
    If people belive in it and want to do things to help the environment, that’s fine. But their solution is government taking over and telling us what we can and can’t do under the guise of “saving the environment”. That’s bringing us one step closer to socialism. If I want to drive an SUV, or whatever that is supposedly harmful to the environment, I should be able to do so without government interference. Unfortunately, McCain buys into the global warming alarmism.

    3. Class warfare
    What’s with politicians playing off of the jealousy some have of the rich? Unless you’re rich, why do you care how much taxes they pay?

    4 Other canidates
    Mr Schilling, could you please add something about third party canidates such as Chuck Baldwin or Ralph Nader? I wish the others could get more attention and consideration from the voters. It’s hard to believe how so many people out there belive the myth that voting third party is throwing your vote away. Unless you live in a battleground state, you’re throwing your vote away regardless of who you vote for. A vote for Baldwin, or some other third party canidate, would at least create the possibility of an alternative to the coke/pepsi canidates next time. I encourage everyone in MA, which is going Obama no matter what, to at least consider a third party canidate.

  33. runnyegg2000 permalink
    September 15, 2008 1:02 am

    No voting record for Palin. That should tell you something. NO EXPERIENCE! For all the whining Sen. McCain did about Obama’s experience, he’s got some nerve picking Palin. What a total stunt. It’s a bad move for this country and the GOP. McCain is a great man, but not a healthy one. He should have picked a better VP, like Duncan Hunter or Romney! Anyway I still support the GOP. I just hope this woman doesn’t embarrass us anymore. When Matt Damon makes sense, the world is a scary place. “It’s like a bad Disney movie,” hockey mom from Alaska becomes president through a series of strange events. So true. It IS like a BAD Disney movie. Curt should have been his VP. He just as qualified (no voting record) and from ALASKA…

  34. mattmcclime permalink
    September 15, 2008 8:53 am

    justautilityinfielder,
    Great points. I have been a Libertarian since 1992, and it gets frustrating to see the returns and how little interest we get nationally. Ross Perot ran as an Independant in 1992, and that delivered Bill Clinton the election. So hopefully the alternative candidates will start getting better returns so we can stop having the same Coke/Pepsi elections.
    I really am tired of voting Republican just to keep Democrats from growing the size and influence of government (considering how much they grew the size and influence of government).

  35. williamwallace permalink
    September 16, 2008 10:13 am

    McCain is for the richest 1% like Curt Schilling. The Dems are for the rest of us. Don’t let yourself be fooled. By all economic measures, there was more economic growth in the 16 years of JFK, LBJ and WJC than there was in the 28 combined years of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bush. Those are all the facts you need to know. Peace, ProsPerity, education, national security is all that should matter. McCain has zero interest in that. He’ll make his buddies rich just like Bush and Cheney did while the rest of us suffer

    9/11 went down on the right’s watch…… not by accident since it resulted in Dick Cheney’s old buddies at Halliburton making billions and billions and billions of dollars ………… and oh yeah Bush’s old oil cronies also got even more filthy rich because of it …….. When the oil man and the defense contractor were elected, the country was doomed.

    And so it will be with this dimwitted old man and the bimbo ….. don’t let Curt lead you like sheep into the continued destruction of this great country …….. we can’t afford more bloodshed ………. not even fake blood on a dirty sock

  36. mattmcclime permalink
    September 16, 2008 8:00 pm

    williamwallace,
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Do you really believe that weak cheese? Now I am going to vote for McCain just because I want Curt Schilling and his ketchup sock to stay rich. And it’s all because of that completely idiotic post you just made. Keep straight ticket voting. That’ll fix everything.

  37. celticswin permalink
    September 17, 2008 8:52 am

    mattmcclime,
    I actually know quite a few republicans. I work in a bank so I would say I’m surrounded by them. Heck, my boss is one himself and we talk about the issues from time to time. First off, thank you for your response. It is appreciated. And you seem to have done your homework. I guess the point I’m trying to make is that there are shades of right leaning (Republican) thinking and shades of left (Democrat). I intentionally painted them all with the same brush as there seems to be a common theme when I talk with them about issues. Specifically, the ones I listed. Of course, you can be a Republican and be more center leaning as you can be a democrat and be more moderate (e.g. Sen Lieberman).

    Now I will address your well thought out points if I may:

    ‘As a Libertarian, I believe the ONLY requirement of the federal government is to protect me from harm.”

    You personally? How noble of you? How about our interests overseas?

    With your isolationist beliefs we should not have entered WWII since they were coming for us. The old saying, and I’m paraphrasing here…When they came for the Jews I did not nothing as I was not a Jew. When they cam for the gypsies, I did nothing as I am not a gypsy etc…..When they came for me, there was no one to do anything for me.

    “As the world continues to lapse into utter chaos, do you feel that our military is prepared for it?”

    Prepared for what? If it comes to it the draft will be implemented again, then your children or relatives can continure to fight in the war Bush II wanted. Also, we created a lot of the chaos to begin with. I’m pretty sure we provided Bin Laden with arms and training in the 1980′s. Look it up.

    We didn’t send enough troops into Iraq to begin with and are constantly reminded of their enlistment rates. So, this one should be a no-brainer.”

    Who said we should have sent in any troops? How about if we were able to get a coalition of the willing to lessen the burden on our troops. The military is now accepting non-high school graduates into their ranks….desperate?

    2. Cut social programs.
    “Specifically, which one? Funding for social programs grew exponentially under Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress. Our government has spent more money on social programs in the last eight years than any other time in history.”

    Agreed, there is a lot of pork in the programs. So both sides are to blame here huh? In the same time how has our spending on military kept pace? You never hear of a Republican looking to cut military. Especially any Republican that used to work for Halliburton.

    “A Republican president did more for AIDS relief in Africa than any other politician in the world.”

    hmmm, interesting. Do you have specifics? I though Bush was busy waging war and looking for the evil doers.

    3.
    “Marriage is not a right. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are.”

    Who are you to say that marriage is not a right? As a libertarian you want the government defining marriage? Seems counter to your core belief of non-interference.

    “And Obama opposes it, too. And Obama didn’t take to the floor of the Senate and decry the marraige amendment act as “antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans”. John McCain did.”

    Obama is the lesser of 2 evils. I don’t really care for either.

    “They believe all life to be precious. I think it is a noble outlook, but flawed. While I don’t support overturning Roe v Wade, I certainly don’t see the harm in trying to lessen the number of abortions per year. ”

    Why not lessen the number of abortions? Do the world is grossly overpopulated as it is. What is one less unwanted child? That, by the way, you and I have to pay for (i.e. welfare, govt. assistance, etc…)

    “I would just rather see it done outside of government interference or influence.”

    fair enough? So let the states decide then? I would agree with that.

    4) Non-Usage of embyonic stem cells that may cure a myraid of diseases.
    “John McCain supports stem cell research. He just doesn’t support creating a life simply to destroy it for research. And I don’t support federal funding for it at all. Not for ethical views, but due to the fact that it is more wasteful governmental spending. 12 states currently fund stem cell research (and half of them are embryonic), and what massive discoveries have been made?”

    tell that to Christopher Reeves, oh wait a second….. Also ,we fund for cancer research, but last I checked that is still uncurable (e.g pancreatic, lung etc…)

    “Please, I would really like to know so I can research it. I would be willing to change my own opinion if there have been major discoveries made. The key word in your statement for me was “may”. When it “does”, then maybe I would consider it.”

    People want to believe the gov’t is doing all they can to cure diseases. As for major discoveries, they will come in time. I’m sure Jonas Salks had his detractors as well. And last I checked Polio was not a major problem, in this country at least.

    5) .Skepticism of global warming and it’s consequences.
    “Please look up John McCain’s stance on this. He is right there with you.”

    McCain will do nothing about Global Warming, same as Bush who he voted 90% the same way on for all issues. Look that one up. He may think one thing but his actions tell the tale.

    6) 6.Shoot first ask questions later mentality (i.e. Iraq war).
    “Please look up the statements of prominent Democratic leaders between 1998-2002 regarding Iraq. They were behind it until it became poltically unpopular. Then they all ran for cover. Clinton believed that Iraq had WMDs when he left office.”

    Re: Clinton : But he had NO PROOF. That is the difference in presidencies. With his lack of proof he did not take action. Seems prudent to me. I sometimes think I can fly, but without proof I may think twice before jumping off a building. My point is, there are some things you can not take back. You commit to fight, you fight. But you had better be damn well sure. And you better have some backers willing to help.

    “Hillary and several other Democrats believed that they did when we invaded (I can provide quotes if you need them).”

    So what, she was supporting her president. And as information changes, opinions change too. Still was not her decision to invade. She was never commander in chief last I checked.

    “And President Bush screwed it up. ”

    Finally we agree! You just summed up his whole presidency in 6 short words. If they ever mint a coin of him that motto should appear on the back.

    “John McCain said so. He was just as frustrated as we were, and he called Rumsfeld the worst Secretary of Defense in history.”

    So, because McCain said so. Listen, McCain is more of the same.

    Thanks

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